• KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Counter narrative: just say "nuh uh" over and over.

    Content: just do a heckin racism.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    If you suggest Ukraine has Nazis, I'm going to provide you joyful content. Intellectual checkmate.

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      seriously, what is this supposed to prove? Can I counter "putin is a dictator" with pictures of him on a horse? Certainly not, that would be absurd.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It's not supposed to counter anything. Thought terminating cliches work by giving people an easy way to shut down an argument without encountering any of it's content.

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      1 year ago

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  • happyandhappy [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    idk if anybody remembers but when trump was first running they had spreadsheets in /r/thedonald exactly like this. seems like its something that the lanyard folks have standardized and honestly might be useful to start making some leftist versions so we can just dialogue tree the npc responses w the least amount of individual effort required

    • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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      1 year ago

      Rightmost side of the leftist version is full of paragraphs and citations

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It should be full of personal attacks and emotional appeals. I thought the science was settled; Well argued debates with lots of sources entrench people in their wrong positions instead of helping them out. Whereas polemic actually works and does what it's supposed to do.

      • happyandhappy [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        yea that's why it would be nice to have the citations laid out for me so i dont have to start a spreadsheet myself of citations to common talking points lmao.

        i usually just use the hexbear search function ngl but a dedicated spreadsheet would be nice.

      • familiar [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Tbh, I see a lot of Lemmygrad people not adapting to their audience over on lemmy.ml. They will say things that are "correct", but they are either too trollish (without going full "bully the libs" mode which works for the "good cop" follow up), or they post things that would work better on their "home turf".

      • happyandhappy [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        u could probably scroll thru beehaw or something similar to get the gist of the typical arguments and talking points

  • Albanian_Lil_Pump [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    So the solution to the “US has a hawkish history” problem is to tell fairy tales? About smol bean America?

    • Bjork_shhh [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      the bible is about the collapse of satanic imperialist slave empires...totally unrelated I'm sure

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Vulnerabilities

    That's just a list of objective facts

    • edge [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Aside from Putin having "dictatorial control".

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      Ok, but I've got these counter-narratives next to them, so aktuly these are strengths now.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    What the fuck is this eighth-grade bullshit? Aren't you supposed to go "counter-signals" into "counter-narrative"? Don't you at least want to pretend you have evidence that contradicts Russian 'signals'?

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Who cares that Zelensky was an actor? Trump was too, nothing for his corruption?

    https://www.axios.com/2021/10/05/pandora-papers-politicians-countries

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    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Signals = Evidence of reality

      Core Narratives = Reality

      Vulnerabilities = Root cause behind reality

      Counter Narrative = Weapons-grade copium

      Content = Shameless propaganda only R*dditors would fall for

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        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Sarah, you are currently in the matrix.

          This isn't real. None of it is.

          Wake up.

          Wake the fuck up.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    showing up to the first day of Propaganda School and taking notes in crayon that say things like "Our guy = Gud" and "There guy = BAD"

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This gave me a legitimate giggle in an otherwise stressful morning:

    Foreign leaders and Steven Seagal.

    Palestine = Russia as liberator.

    Putin is powerful and dangerous is not true because he's also a dictator who can't be stopped from doing genocide except by jokes.

    Ukrainian Nazis -> Joyful Content

    Do not acknowledge Zelensky's career!

    michael-laugh