I’ve felt this way for a while. The lack of ideological diversity is what creates the illusion of “left unity” over here. One example:

Imagine if we had a sizeable chunk of people who are anti-Dengist. Then nearly every post about China, every use of Xi emotes, would be filled with replies criticising China, Xi, and the OP.

And you couldn’t call all these people libs and just ban them because there are a lot of leftists, from Maoists to anarchists to ultras to even non-Dengist MLs who genuinely oppose the modern Chinese state based on their ideological convictions.

And if the mods banned them, that would be pure bias, and could lead to an exodus of those other leftist users, which would mean we are not actually left-unity.

But if the mods didn’t, then it would be a severe restriction on the kinds of content that can be posted on the “main” communities. You couldn’t say things like “China is moving towards socialism or that it is in the primary stage of socialist construction” because these are controversial opinions not held by other leftists. Allowing these, would mean allowing the opposites, which would mean a war in the replies every time you post something like this.

As an example, see what happened with vegan posting. In this “left unity” Hexbear, anarchists would have to confine their controversial opinions to the anarchist comm, MLs to the ML comm etc.

Right now, we have an extremely small minority of people who are against the majority opinion in some way. And those people are tolerated in their dissent as long as they frame it in very careful ways and never outright go against the majority. I mean, we have left unity emotes and anarchist emotes and that’s all cool.

But what happens if there are a 100+ anarchists who start posting and commenting about their analysis/opinion on the USSR? Would that be allowed? Would anarchists, if they existed in sizeable numbers be allowed to not just criticise the Soviet Union in the narrow ways in which is allowed currently but to state the full breadth of their opinions on it from the start? Even more controversial, what if Trots started talking about Stalin? How long would that be tolerated?

Now, I’m not saying the way Hexbear operates is wrong. Maybe left unity is a pipe dream and that there are just too many controversial positions and opposing visions for it to be real. Maybe, if there were other tendencies here, the mods would figure out a way to balance things out. Be calm on main, go wild on specific comms. But I think that is the point - Hexbear’s claim to left unity needs to be properly tested. The users and the mods need to face these challenges and come up with proper solutions that doesn’t end in purges of other communities. We cannot claim to be this big tent when we’ve only been in this tiny sandbox with a handful of small rocks.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    1 year ago

    jesse-wtf

    I disagree with people on here all the time, if anything I'm too contrarian and argumentative than I ought to be. I have had all kinds of bad takes in the past that stay up. Are you saying you want me to be more argumentative and post hotter takes? I'm not sure that's a good idea.

    Imagine if we had a sizeable chunk of people who are anti-Dengist. Then nearly every post about China, every use of Xi emotes, would be filled with replies criticising China, Xi, and the OP.

    That's not really true. Being anti-Dengist doesn't mean that you have to object to Xi emotes or criticize China at every possible opportunity. Like if you see an anti-landlord meme featuring mao-aggro-shining, you don't have to genuinely believe that Mao did nothing wrong to enjoy it, or at least to refrain from posting "ZOMG YOU GUYS NOT FUNNY GOMMUNISM NO FOOD 10 GOZILLION DEAD!!!" It's called having a sense of humor and not being a nerd?

    If we had a thread of serious discussion regarding any state or any leftist leader past or present, you'd probably see a range of takes including criticism, and I don't see the mods being particularly ban-happy. I guess I just don't see what your issue is.

    ...unless

    As an example, see what happened with vegan posting.

    Is that what this is all about?

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Is that what this is all about?

      negative it never ends...

    • ElHexo
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      3 months ago

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