It's not a "risk" it's a "hazard assement".

It's not a food safety agency it's just the World Health Organization's cancer research arm.

This certainly doesn't stir up mistrust. joker-troll

  • Esoteir [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    did you even read the article, they're correct

    there is 100% a difference between hazards and risks, aspartame is a hazard in that if you drink multiple twelve packs of diet soda a day it can give you cancer, it is not a risk in that the average person will not be drinking multiple twelve packs of soda in a single day. hence why it's important to label it as a hazard (guys don't drink 17+ diet coke cans a day), but not important for it to be labeled as a risk (general public should not drink this at all) without additional research that puts it in the risk category

    which is why food regulatory bodies including the one in China allows aspartame in food products

    • RION [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      which is why food regulatory bodies including the one in China allows aspartame in food products

      You found the cheat code to make hexbear users think something is okay! some-controversy

      But yeah this article is not dunk worthy. It rightly explains the difference and use cases of different health org classifications

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Well now you're on to "risk management" or managing a hazard .

      Taking it in on itself is not a 1:1 cancer, but over time and with individual known and unknown factors will increase your risk to cancer and neurological issues. I just know if I have more than 1 serving it gives me migraines which is inconsistant with industry you need to bath in it every day all day for it to negatively effect you.

      I would trust the WHO over China's food safety.

      Edit: Hexbear - now powered by Monsanto.

      • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I just know if I have more than 1 serving it gives me migraines

        Might want to blind test this if you haven't already. See: MSG panic

        • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I have. Over years. The factor is always aspartame. I have no other explanation. Within an hour , not 24 or 48 like some studies say, I'll get headaches and I've learned to just look out for it and avoid it. I got no other food allergies or sensitivities. I'm not a womam going through hormonal changes or being drunk or have a history of migranes or headaches as some studies suggest. It doesn't matter the weather, the food, any other factor. It's aspartame.

          • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Blind tests specifically? Take, e.g., soda and diet soda, decant into identical containers with hidden labels, drink one, and log any effects before you check what it was. The brain is powerful. Some people experience real headaches because they think that WiFi or other RF gives them headaches. But they won't get a headache from radio waves they don't know about.

            I don't intend this in a mean way. If you do find out that it's something else you could get relief from said migraines. Like the MSG folks who are probably just not drinking enough water when they go out to dinner, or are nervous about Asians or something. I once took placebo and a low dose of MDMA in a blind study and got them backwards. I was embarrassed for some reason but our brains really do construct much of what we perceive as raw sensory input.

            • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              I don't have these headaches unless it's aspartame and I really had no real opinion on the whole thing until after years of repeated "why am I getting headaches" shortly after and I revaluate what I've had and it's always triggered around aspartame. It isn't psychosomatic. I don't have a problem with regular migranes or headaches. When I do get headaches I can usually attribute them to dehydration, or stress, or some other obvious issue.

              I can have suculouse with no problem. Stevia no problem. Monk fruit no problem with the added bonus of having more lucid dreams. High fructose corn syrup but I feel a bit bloated after so I try to stay away from that - but no headaches. It's always aspartame if I have more than 1 serving. So there's something there.

              Why am I being gaslighted so damned hard on this forum?

              • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Look I'm not trying to gaslight you. It's totally possible that aspartame affects you in a unique way. Maybe the headache thing is real and you are a hyper-responder. Maybe most people don't experience headaches because they're convinced it's safe. All I have to say is that you can't rule out psychosomatic effects without blind testing, and I personally don't believe untested anecdotes like yours because of my own experience with drugs and from growing up in the tail end of the MSG panic. Have a nice day, take the last word if you want.

              • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                even if you do get a headache from aspartame, so what? it says nothing about the general safety of the stuff

      • RION [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        I just know if I have more than 1 serving it gives me migraines which is inconsistant with industry you need to bath in it every day all day for it to negatively effect you.

        Anecdotes aside, just because people can have sensitivities, intolerances, or allergies to certain substances does not mean it's harmful to the average person in anything but an unrealistic dosage, nor is it treated as such—peanuts are noticably absent from lists of deadliest poisons despite the effects of anaphylactic shock.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        1 year ago

        When i laugh i pass out, so we're on to risk management every time i come on this site

        Other things of equal carcinogenic hazard level per the WHO or IARC:

        living in an area with cell phone, AM or FM radio reception

        Being near wood that hasn't been sealed, stained, or lacquered.

        Smelling a fart

        Having ferns growing within 20 miles of you (they are everywhere except deserts and antarctica)

        Some things that are considerably more carcinogenic

        Living in the same building as a cat

        Living in a house that once had lead paint on the walls, but which has been covered up

        Being within 20 meters of leather

        Consumption of meat or animal products

        Hormone replacement therapy

        Consumption of Caffeine

        Consumption of Alcohol

        Exposure to sunlight (even through windows)

        Insufficient exposure to sunlight

        Wood sealants, stains, and lacquers

        Consumption of Tap Water

        Consumption of Bottled Water

        Consumption of Filtered Water

        Being near fire or smoke

        Consumption of hot beverages

        Outdoor Air Pollution

        Consumption of Fried Foods

        Exposure to emissions from frying or fried foods

        Going to a barber shop or hair salon, even once.

        • dat_math [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Insufficient exposure to sunlight

          Wood sealants, stains, and lacquers

          Consumption of Tap Water

          Consumption of Bottled Water

          Consumption of Filtered Water

          aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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            1 year ago

            wood sealants, stains, and lacquers

            Actual answer: use food-grade wood oils like walnut oil, tung oil (not a blend), or raw linseed oil. Not boiled linseed oil, it's not food safe and spontaneously combusts. Wood dust is in 1, so just wear a respirator or even a mask when doing sanding or other woodworking. Oils were listed in order of my recommendation from easiest to find and work with to least easy.

            Consumption of water

            All three of these options (and hot beverages, meaning any time water is at or above 65c/147f) are in 2a which is "probably carcinogenic." So, soup or even just heated up water is in the same class along with coffee, mate, or tea. Raw water isn't even rated because that shit'll kill you dead, honey. Get a Reverse Osmosis filter, don't run hot water through it, and be cognizant of the pipes between your filter system and your non-leaded glass.

            Insufficient exposure to sunlight

            Just go outside for a little bit when you can. Literally like 10 minutes is enough.