Ok, but this is still pig protein. Even entirely meatless "pork" such as Impossible Pork is and treyf, meaning that despite it not actually even containing any pork at all, it still cannot be consumed by people maintaining a halal or kosher diet.
This isn't a science problem, its a religion problem. If you've got a hang up about eating beans, because you're religion tells you that beans are a pig...
Idk, man. What is anyone supposed to do to accommodate someone that picks up a bean and insists it is actually a pig?
Im ok with pork beans in principle, but ensuring that (some, clearly marked) vegan food only contains vegetable protein seems reasonable, given people can be vegan for medical reasons.
Yeah, this one is extremely not kosher. I think there's maybe an argument to be made for things that absolutely contain only plant products like Impossible Pork to be kosher or halal, but I also understand the opposing argument, that it would be kind of troubling to declare something explicitly labeled as pork as being either one.
I can't speak for Muslims, but there are a lot of non-kosher Jews who will eat other treyf food items like catfish or shellfish, but who still will not eat pork. To be entirely honest, I don't keep kosher at all, and I actually have both crab and bacon in my fridge right now.
haha yes cool and based we should feed banned things to people with religious dietary restrictions, this is very normal and not literally the exact same shit that neonazis love to do. please put bacon on qurans and dip your bullets in bacon grease because you are very neat and based
clearly I am the reactionary here for the thought crime of *checks notes* being jewish, and this is not a textbook antisemitic argument that you're concern trolling over.
There's a reason communism is atheist and it isn't because it's fucking anti-Semitic. Religion is the original reactionary bastion and is potentially the only institution responsible for more suffering that capitalism itself. Read theory and stop calling comrades racist
This is a deeply r/atheism-poisoned misunderstanding of both religion and of Jewish culture. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are certainly parroting words and concepts directly out of the mouths of antisemites. I'm not playing the "who's read more theory" epeen measuring contest with you. Do better.
religion is cool because some redditors are cringe
I'm just gonna stop replying, you're way too online. Call it epeen whatever if you want, but it really feels like a lot of these arguments could be avoided if people were willing to read a little.
Dude, I have read plenty of theory. I moderate c/Judaism on here as well, and I'm not just going to bend over and . I really don't get what the fuck you're trying to achieve with this line of reasoning. Learn to keep your sectarianism to yourself or piss up a tree.
I just think that people who have religious or health related dietary restrictions should be allowed to maintain those restrictions, and that there's a legitimate argument to be made in that scenario. I'm not suggesting that this is a matter of animal cruelty, just that the idea of pushing something that roughly 1/3 of the global population cannot eat as a predominant monoculture product is probably something that that 1/3 of the population is justified in being apprehensive about.
Impossible pork being Haram isn't a consensus. Some Islamic groups in the way argue it isn't, and their argument has no Quranic basis, it's just that they don't like that pork is in the name. There is nothing in Quran or Hadith that could give any strong basis in religious law for it to be haram. That may as well be the case for Jews, but I'm not as familiar.
Because the argument is that it's haram based purely on the name and would be halal otherwise, which is a silly argument.
Factor worth considering: some people have dietary restrictions that prohibit consumption of certain animals, including pigs.
Ok, but this is still a bean.
Ok, but this is still pig protein. Even entirely meatless "pork" such as Impossible Pork is
and treyf, meaning that despite it not actually even containing any pork at all, it still cannot be consumed by people maintaining a halal or kosher diet.
This isn't a science problem, its a religion problem. If you've got a hang up about eating beans, because you're religion tells you that beans are a pig...
Idk, man. What is anyone supposed to do to accommodate someone that picks up a bean and insists it is actually a pig?
Im ok with pork beans in principle, but ensuring that (some, clearly marked) vegan food only contains vegetable protein seems reasonable, given people can be vegan for medical reasons.
I just get the sense that this'll be the next generation of MSG hysteria, where we make a big show of warning about powdered mushrooms.
Interesting that it's not Kosher, given the propensity for rules lawyering around things. (Not a criticism, us Catholics love a technicality.)
But yeah, label that shit for religious and health reasons.
Yeah, this one is extremely not kosher. I think there's maybe an argument to be made for things that absolutely contain only plant products like Impossible Pork to be kosher or halal, but I also understand the opposing argument, that it would be kind of troubling to declare something explicitly labeled as pork as being either one.
I can't speak for Muslims, but there are a lot of non-kosher Jews who will eat other treyf food items like catfish or shellfish, but who still will not eat pork. To be entirely honest, I don't keep kosher at all, and I actually have both crab and bacon in my fridge right now.
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haha yes cool and based we should feed banned things to people with religious dietary restrictions, this is very normal and not literally the exact same shit that neonazis love to do. please put bacon on qurans and dip your bullets in bacon grease because you are very neat and based
clearly I am the reactionary here for the thought crime of *checks notes* being jewish, and this is not a textbook antisemitic argument that you're concern trolling over.
There's a reason communism is atheist and it isn't because it's fucking anti-Semitic. Religion is the original reactionary bastion and is potentially the only institution responsible for more suffering that capitalism itself. Read theory and stop calling comrades racist
This is a deeply r/atheism-poisoned misunderstanding of both religion and of Jewish culture. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are certainly parroting words and concepts directly out of the mouths of antisemites. I'm not playing the "who's read more theory" epeen measuring contest with you. Do better.
I'm just gonna stop replying, you're way too online. Call it epeen whatever if you want, but it really feels like a lot of these arguments could be avoided if people were willing to read a little.
Dude, I have read plenty of theory. I moderate c/Judaism on here as well, and I'm not just going to bend over and . I really don't get what the fuck you're trying to achieve with this line of reasoning. Learn to keep your sectarianism to yourself or piss up a tree.
I think this is a rare miss from Emma, but I don't think we need to flame our comrades with this sort of response tbh. She has a point
I just think that people who have religious or health related dietary restrictions should be allowed to maintain those restrictions, and that there's a legitimate argument to be made in that scenario. I'm not suggesting that this is a matter of animal cruelty, just that the idea of pushing something that roughly 1/3 of the global population cannot eat as a predominant monoculture product is probably something that that 1/3 of the population is justified in being apprehensive about.
Impossible pork being Haram isn't a consensus. Some Islamic groups in the way argue it isn't, and their argument has no Quranic basis, it's just that they don't like that pork is in the name. There is nothing in Quran or Hadith that could give any strong basis in religious law for it to be haram. That may as well be the case for Jews, but I'm not as familiar.
Because the argument is that it's haram based purely on the name and would be halal otherwise, which is a silly argument.