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Pork and Beans :kelly
A quick look shows they haven't told anyone what the actual genes they've put in are (for "IP reasons"), but it's probably something like myoglobin if it has that pink colour.
Frankly, if it improves the amino acid profile then great, and if it convinces even a few people to eat less meat then double great.
It wold be pretty neat to have a vegetable with a complete amino acid profile. Make life easier for a lot of people.
Right. I don't really get people freaking out at the idea of tasting protein residue.
Like, the problem with industrial animal cruelty isn't the flavor.
Factor worth considering: some people have dietary restrictions that prohibit consumption of certain animals, including pigs.
Ok, but this is still pig protein. Even entirely meatless "pork" such as Impossible Pork is
and treyf, meaning that despite it not actually even containing any pork at all, it still cannot be consumed by people maintaining a halal or kosher diet.this is still pig protein
not actually even containing any pork at all
This isn't a science problem, its a religion problem. If you've got a hang up about eating beans, because you're religion tells you that beans are a pig...
Idk, man. What is anyone supposed to do to accommodate someone that picks up a bean and insists it is actually a pig?
Im ok with pork beans in principle, but ensuring that (some, clearly marked) vegan food only contains vegetable protein seems reasonable, given people can be vegan for medical reasons.
I just get the sense that this'll be the next generation of MSG hysteria, where we make a big show of warning about powdered mushrooms.
Interesting that it's not Kosher, given the propensity for rules lawyering around things. (Not a criticism, us Catholics love a technicality.)
But yeah, label that shit for religious and health reasons.
Yeah, this one is extremely not kosher. I think there's maybe an argument to be made for things that absolutely contain only plant products like Impossible Pork to be kosher or halal, but I also understand the opposing argument, that it would be kind of troubling to declare something explicitly labeled as pork as being either one.
I can't speak for Muslims, but there are a lot of non-kosher Jews who will eat other treyf food items like catfish or shellfish, but who still will not eat pork. To be entirely honest, I don't keep kosher at all, and I actually have both crab and bacon in my fridge right now.
haha yes cool and based we should feed banned things to people with religious dietary restrictions, this is very normal and not literally the exact same shit that neonazis love to do. please put bacon on qurans and dip your bullets in bacon grease because you are very neat and based
clearly I am the reactionary here for the thought crime of *checks notes* being jewish, and this is not a textbook antisemitic argument that you're concern trolling over.
There's a reason communism is atheist and it isn't because it's fucking anti-Semitic. Religion is the original reactionary bastion and is potentially the only institution responsible for more suffering that capitalism itself. Read theory and stop calling comrades racist
This is a deeply r/atheism-poisoned misunderstanding of both religion and of Jewish culture. I'm not saying you're an antisemite, but you are certainly parroting words and concepts directly out of the mouths of antisemites. I'm not playing the "who's read more theory" epeen measuring contest with you. Do better.
religion is cool because some redditors are cringe
I'm just gonna stop replying, you're way too online. Call it epeen whatever if you want, but it really feels like a lot of these arguments could be avoided if people were willing to read a little.
Dude, I have read plenty of theory. I moderate c/Judaism on here as well, and I'm not just going to bend over and . I really don't get what the fuck you're trying to achieve with this line of reasoning. Learn to keep your sectarianism to yourself or piss up a tree.
I think this is a rare miss from Emma, but I don't think we need to flame our comrades with this sort of response tbh. She has a point
I just think that people who have religious or health related dietary restrictions should be allowed to maintain those restrictions, and that there's a legitimate argument to be made in that scenario. I'm not suggesting that this is a matter of animal cruelty, just that the idea of pushing something that roughly 1/3 of the global population cannot eat as a predominant monoculture product is probably something that that 1/3 of the population is justified in being apprehensive about.
Impossible pork being Haram isn't a consensus. Some Islamic groups in the way argue it isn't, and their argument has no Quranic basis, it's just that they don't like that pork is in the name. There is nothing in Quran or Hadith that could give any strong basis in religious law for it to be haram. That may as well be the case for Jews, but I'm not as familiar.
Because the argument is that it's haram based purely on the name and would be halal otherwise, which is a silly argument.
Okay, so here is my bit:
What if we can take from the Cloth of Jesus, or the Spear or whatever is left and use that DNA to clone a Jesus embryo and from that take the proteins which create blood/blood colour and those we implant into plants, so that Christians can actually have a literal interpretation of the bible for the first time in history.
One time I had a dream about this exact scenario and after shooting Jesus blood into the cloning chamber Danny DeVito popped out and everyone cheered
Transubstantiation vs consubstantiation? Neither, this is literally Jesus’s body.
What if we can take from the Cloth of Jesus, or the Spear or whatever
Do you have any idea how much semen is on those relics?
They're going to use soy pork to turn Allah's bravest warriors into haram femboys! 😤
Oh man. I would love to sit in with the jurists when they sit down to determine whether gengineered soy/pork abominations are Halal or not.
Might be able to find records about it, cause it's already a years long debate.
Someone watched annihilation and went "wait I think this might be something" and then made meat beans
Plus we dont lack protein in our diets (at least in the first world) we are mostly deficient in fiber
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An excerpt of Oink by Allen Ginsberg
A buff bodybuilder coworker and I were talking about our favorite soy milk brands, and another buff bodybuilder coworker joined in and coworker 1 asked the other if he drank it. He gave this condescending face and scoffed and said “no, I don’t like that stuff” and proceed to drink from a plastic bottle.
It shouldn’t be surprising that the first guy and I are asian so we drink this shit without any problem. Maybe white people just have bad stomachs or something or maybe he was specifically allergic, but it’s more likely he read some shit about soy milk estrogen given his other views. But I imagine estrogen from plastic will be more damaging because it’s mixed with a bunch of other shit
Coming soon: The Gymbros War over Half-understood Pop Science
Drinking from most plastic bottles will have the same effect on man titties as drinking soy milk
The irony of beer being held up as the masculine counterpart to soy milk by those who choose to use "soyboy" as a slur is that beer contains the most potent phytoestrogens ever discovered.
Not to mention that cow milk, which is the other masculine alternative, has actual animal estrogen in it.
The last time I had soy milk I hated it, but that was years and years ago. Have the brands gotten better or are there any you prefer? I also dont like most of the almond milks I've tried but do love 1 cashew and every oat milk I've had
As someone who has a pork protein intolerance, I really hope they declare when they make products with this.
Cool thing by itself. Too bad it will only be implemented Monsanto-style with everything it implies, for now.
Am I the only one that thought this looks like they're trying to make bean-sized spam?
It's a good thing GMO soy plantations don't have anything to do with deforestation, displacement of smallholder peasants or indigenous peoples, soil erosion, and biodiversity loss, right?
Particularly to feed pigs.
¿ "And Yet a Trace of the True Self Exists in the False Self" ?
Shit is getting confusing
It may be confusing, but we must never forget what is important: we gotta eat some pig beans immediately.
"We used to eat Pork and Beans but now liberals turned it into Beans and more beans!"
So in other words, it’s mostly poor and nonwhites eating vegan, but the most marketed and researched products are ‘meat substitutes’ which take resources from poor and nonwhite communities, all while the media portrays some hipster white guy as the sole vegan demographic
Multi pronged psyop to make people discard poor and nonwhite plights because they’re not snobby tree hugger
The part that's beyond my comprehension is why they keep trying to sell veg protein as a replacement for meat when decades of failure has shown that's not working.
They are getting slightly more popular with time.
But the main reason it keeps happening is that you get to sell veg at meat (or even slightly higher) prices if it works.
McD's famously used a ton of soy in its early burgers because it was cheaper than pure ground beef.
This isn't a retail product. Its an ingredient intended to cut costs for mass market meat-flavored products.
The dried pork dust on your $5 bag of potato chips will one day contain zero actual pig in it.
Hey texturized lentils/soy/peas/etc protein is already great and the empanadas, sausages, and pattys made with them are incredibly realistic
Trying to convince meat eaters that plant protein is the same as meat, not adoption of plant proteins. Maybe I'm just built different but I didn't actually start enjoying plant protein stuff until I stopped thinking of it as a replacement for meat and started enjoying it on it's own merits.
Because despite the bragging, capitalists are unable to innovate their marketing. They’ll hire a panel of psychologists to think of the most addictive method to make their cigarettes and gambling within legal limits, but won’t bother hiring someone who can convince
to eat a broccoli without making it look like baconBecause capitalist brain says "their product failed because it wasn't good enough and a cheap enough price. Surely I am smarter than them and I can make my product better and cheaper!"
But then they can't because science and technology have limits and can't be used to solve literally everything in a perfect way every time. So they fail too and the cycle continues
not that kind of limits. someday somebody will get the texture right. i had some fake "ground beef" that was pretty close, i think the more viable thing to do would be to mix it in with the real stuff like taco bell with sawdust but they'd need to be cheaper than beef or figure out how to get the cowards in government to stop subsidizing the beef industry so much.
get the cowards in government to stop subsidizing the beef industry so much.
epcome on give me that $35 a pound beef so i can justify spending $10 on bison
i think the more viable thing to do would be to mix it in with the real stuff like taco bell with sawdust but they'd need to be cheaper than beef
this is already very common in schools and prisons with TVP. cheaper than meat
