https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-cluster-munitions-biden-russia-war-f364924503dfd14b8851b056852831fb

  • chilemango [they/them, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    According to Cluster Munition Monitor 2022, the list of 16 countries that refuse to sign the convention and produce cluster munitions included Brazil, China, Egypt, Greece, Iran, Israel, India, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, the United States and Turkey.

    Ukraine is also not a signatory but doesnt make them

    For context these countries both make them and don’t ban them and both Ukraine and Russia have used them already in this war, Ukraine was probably just running out of their Soviet era stock of them that they inherited from the dissolution

    And obviously all landmine and landmine adjacent weapons are indiscriminate and kill decades after they were placed, one of the most evil weapons out there

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      And obviously all landmine and landmine adjacent weapons are indiscriminate and kill decades after they were placed, one of the most evil weapons out there

      I've heard that some of the western front from WW1 is still uninhabitable. Ukraine is honestly the true loser of this war, regardless of Nato or Russia's victory

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Apparently there are some seriously, seriously contaminated areas in france where the concentrations of unexploded WWI ordnance are so dense, and the explosive compounds are so unstable after a century of degradation, that there's just a big "Fuck off this place'll kill ya!" barrier around the area.

        • Gamer_time [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Not just apparently, it's called "Zone Rouge" and it's not just the explosives that are a danger, but all the heavy metals like lead and mercury and poisons from gases that make both agriculture and habitation untenable. The zone has obviously shrunk since 1917, it having been over 100 years and all, but it's still exists in the areas of the most intense fighting.

      • chilemango [they/them, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Ironically these US cluster bombs will have a lower dud rate than the Soviet era ones they were using earlier, fucking grim that is something that is factored in, instead of hey we probably shouldn't be killing eachother.

        The article has the Ukrainian official saying we're going to have to demine after anyways so what's the harm in a little more agony-deep

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    no cluster munitions until you clean up your leftover cluster munitions in Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    As usual, civilians will be ones most fucked over by war

  • Dryad [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    America: the greatest country satan on earth

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    1 year ago

    The NAFO dogs are calling HRW putin shills now for opposing cluster bombs lol

  • SupFBI [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Yay! Giving Ukraine our old stock of cluster munitions. A generation of children with missing limbs. Cool!