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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Hard disagree. You should not be able to burn a bible. This is a hate crime whether it's directed at christians or muslims or any other religious group.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      can you hate crime a group that isn't marginalized? the thing that makes burning a koran bad is the social context of it and where most of us live burning a bible is like saying anti-cracker-aktion

      if a mayo in "the west' has a bug up their ass about islam and not rightwing christianity i'm very suspicious of their motives of course, but if anybody who actually is harmed by islamic nation-states or societies wants to light that shit up they should have our support in doing so unless they go full ayaan hirsi ali.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Religious hate should not be treated the same. The religious hate has a very real consequences in the form of actually causing religious hatred to stir in all segments of society that boils over into real action. The act of calling someone a mayo causes absolutely fucking nothing.

        the thing that makes burning a koran bad is the social context of it and where most of us live burning a bible is like saying

        This is simply not true here in europe where we have christians that hate other christians and will literally kill each other over it if you do not crack down on this behaviour. It's a more complex matter.

        • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          do they burn eachothers bibles to be deliberately provocative? also christian infighting would seem to be on more equal footing than our other examples.

          regardless, burning a catholic bible for having the wrong books in it in occupied ireland is a completely different gesture than an irish feminist burning a bible because the catholic church does evil shit and the cultural dominance of their shitty ideas gets people killed.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            do they burn eachothers bibles to be deliberately provocative?

            Yes. It was clearly specified in the Catechism of St. Pius X:

            32 Q: What should a Christian do who has been given a Bible by a Protestant or by an agent of the Protestants?

            A: A Christian to whom a Bible has been offered by a Protestant or an agent of the Protestants should reject it with disgust, because it is forbidden by the Church. If it was accepted by inadvertence, it must be burnt as soon as possible or handed in to the Parish Priest.

            We crack down on this shit because historically to NOT crack down on this shit has caused trouble after trouble.

            • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              that doesn't sound like the kind of public spectacle burning that we usually talk about. nobody gives a shit if you burn something and don't tell anyone about it.

              surely we can prevent holy war without enshrining majoritarian fragility into law.