• Yeat [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    not for get all doomer but i’m only 20 now and this is only the beginning. seriously what can i do? is there any climate optimism to be had? any solutions in sight (socialism obviously but still)?

    yeah yeah communism’s inevitable due to contradictions but i don’t think marx envisioned that we would boil the earth and all it’s inhabitants to death before we reached that point

    • Hive [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      after the 1950 most of communist stopped believing in inevitablity theory, including soviet ones. this is because marx thinks the rate of profit to fall will cause crisis in two stated ways, that leaves open that their may be infinite ways or near infinite ways to restore profitability or counter tendency for the rate of profit to fall, which I think is true, to understand neoliberalism or fordism better as regimes of accumulation these are periodization of capitalism crisis to restore profitability. I think we are morphing out of neoliberalism into something new since 2009 but rember this the left didn't see neoliberalisn come until the early 90s it starts debatable 1972 or 1974.

      Marx in a very vague sense talks about climate change kinda but about Thomas malthus but about soil productivity and he ends up trying to carve out a middle ground with malthus on carrying capacity of earth, while still condemning him.

      • Yeat [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        i haven’t really heard any of this tbh so that was interesting to read. but if you look at the graphs of the rate of profit falling, yeah you’ll see brief increases during times of like war for example and other things, but those brief increases are only temporary and it begins to dwindle again, it’s a slow process but idk if they’ll be able to keep that up forever.

        • Hive [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah I think I stand in a sorta of middle ground, like I don't think its inevitable, but I think falling profit rates, the methods that they will resort to fix it could potentially cause potentially enough pressure if the left is ready and willing to take power, I'm a very orthodox Marxist on many things, an example that is interesting is marx writes in the 1881 edition of capital volume 1 in Russian to the early bolsvheks and basic tells them their revolution will fail if they tryed because they are still in feudalism. He revises it in 1883 to well maybe if russia is a catalyst for more mature captlists powers it will work out. So here in 2023 I think we can firmly say he was right, what ever the soviets ended up being they converted feudal russia to captlist russia. The assignment is the united States it always has been always will be. forming a serious socialist party with popular local level support this will probley split the Chinese ccp into two camps. And cause massive popular uprising around the globe, we ushered in the end of the feudalism era, its very likely we will usher in the next era as well, we always have been the most revolutionary project and we need to seize on that for the world. Im trying to be uplifting and provocative.

    • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      We basically have all the solutions so that's something to be optimistic about.

      On an individual level, you can work in a climate change related industry or organise mutual aid in your local area as disasters become more frequent.

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        That's what's so frustrating. We already have the technology to solve this problem - just not the economic system to implement those solutions.

    • supplier [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      The climate is a balance of many factors. Whatever man made changes have been done can be undone.