• Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    This may be true in several years, but if I'm not mistaken, all sources indicate that NATO's already been bled dry.

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        They keep claiming they have what they need to destroy Russia, but 2 years into the conflict, it still hasn't shown up, and Russia is even stronger. NATO doesn't have anything else they can part with.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        UK admitted they have ammo for 3 weeks of warfare. German military is in shambles. French and Polish disarmed some of their units to send arms to Ukraine. US is not in such a great condition too, eating L after L from barely armed people like Taliban or Ansar Allah.
        Sure, they may be well armed but for usual aerial terror campaigns (because not even for naval now), but absolutely not for land warfare.

          • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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            5 months ago

            If the United States had the capacity to make enough ammunition and ordnance to fight multiple wars at the same time, there would be enough people employed by these companies that you would probably personally know at least 1 of them.

              • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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                5 months ago

                All those places together do not even employ 400,000 people. I work in manufacturing and I don’t know a single person who works at these places. What I’m saying is so many new jobs would be created that MILLIONS of people would from that point on be in the defense sector making bombs and bullets. It’s not even comparable.

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                5 months ago

                Walmart is a big employer. Can they supply war munitions? Being a big employer is genuinely irrelevant unless the bulk of those employees are making munitions

                  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                    5 months ago

                    Look I'm not trying to be a dick here but are you being serious? The US can deliver some special, expensive wundermunitions via aircraft, if they have absolute air superiority. They only get that against shepherds. We're talking about enemies in 2024 who have more than just sheep maintenance capacity, so...

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            A very large portion of American military doctrine is centered around avoiding overextension.

            And yet they are currently already overextended.

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                5 months ago

                The US Navy is currently extremely overextended. They are currently losing what Navy officers have described as the largest naval battle the US has been in since WW2 against a nation whose navy consists of speedboats.

                On the subject of supply or logistics, the US military basically lacks any of the transport/airlift capacity they had 25 years ago. That, to my mind, qualifies as a supply or logistics failure, given that such a capacity would be a basic necessity for any actual Army engagement in a conflict.

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                5 months ago

                The US military's greatest weakness is the inability to hold objectives

                Just gonna add here that yes, the US military does have trouble with the basic requirements of a military. This does not help your argument.

                  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                    5 months ago

                    There's no question about that. The US military can do massacres, but it can't achieve military goals unless they're just "air based massacres".

      • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        It really isn’t. For nato to be well armed they would have to dump massive amounts of money into manufacturing and even then it would take years to get up to speed. We have every indication that the US has given from their own stockpiles. Not all of it, but there really isn’t old stock to speak of.