People defending volunteer soliders is just some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. Imagine if you applied any of this logic to cops, because that's what NATO troops are overseas. Going ACAB but defending volunteer soliders is straight up incoherent from an ideological perspective. They're not even conscripts. And the class character of the US volunteer army is wealthier than the average American. I'd imagine the same is true for most NATO volunteer armies.
Why read the article when you can reflexively jump to the defense of the innocent innocent soldiers? How could they have known that the military was for killing people?
I am more convinced that the third wordists are right with each passing day. We have a word for people who just want their own slice of the imperialist pie, they’re called radlibs. Third world leftists sure as hell don’t lose any sleep about the suffering of the bastards that pillaged their country. I know I don’t.
Fuck the troops. Amazing that this is even remotely controversial in a “leftist” space.
I just don't understand it. I'm pretty sure no one on here is going to go defend old apartheid South African troops or the modern apartheid Israeli troops (and that's good, no one should defend them), yet those groups actually have more of an excuse than volunteer soliders as they're conscripts and were/are forcefully drafted.
Plugging your ears and repeating "materialism materialism materialism" as if it absolves you of any and all responsibility. Literally just clean wehrmacht but it's leftist so it's ok. Just as I don't give a fuck if a concentration camp guard didn't actually hate Jews and just did it for the money, I also don't give a fuck about your motivations for participating in a genocidal war machine. Even if all you did was handle paperwork, you still greased the wheels.
You won't catch me clutching my pearls about the precious victim-soldiers.
Yeah if the military wants to, they can just bring the draft back and ignore all the silly rules. But then it becomes something completely different in terms of the class and income level, and stuff like fragings might happen again or rebellions against command.
People defending volunteer soliders is just some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. Imagine if you applied any of this logic to cops, because that's what NATO troops are overseas. Going ACAB but defending volunteer soliders is straight up incoherent from an ideological perspective. They're not even conscripts. And the class character of the US volunteer army is wealthier than the average American. I'd imagine the same is true for most NATO volunteer armies.
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"Um I NEEDED to kill that family for my college money, you stupid moral purist elitist. I'm the REAL victim here. "
The absolute state of western leftism.
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The article actually adresses that quite well, as well as most of the other common talking points from leftists in NATO countries.
My original comment is basically a summary of the article in some ways
Why read the article when you can reflexively jump to the defense of the innocent innocent soldiers? How could they have known that the military was for killing people?
I am more convinced that the third wordists are right with each passing day. We have a word for people who just want their own slice of the imperialist pie, they’re called radlibs. Third world leftists sure as hell don’t lose any sleep about the suffering of the bastards that pillaged their country. I know I don’t.
Fuck the troops. Amazing that this is even remotely controversial in a “leftist” space.
This is an amerikan website. Shit takes from chauvinists are to be expected.
I just don't understand it. I'm pretty sure no one on here is going to go defend old apartheid South African troops or the modern apartheid Israeli troops (and that's good, no one should defend them), yet those groups actually have more of an excuse than volunteer soliders as they're conscripts and were/are forcefully drafted.
Plugging your ears and repeating "materialism materialism materialism" as if it absolves you of any and all responsibility. Literally just clean wehrmacht but it's leftist so it's ok. Just as I don't give a fuck if a concentration camp guard didn't actually hate Jews and just did it for the money, I also don't give a fuck about your motivations for participating in a genocidal war machine. Even if all you did was handle paperwork, you still greased the wheels.
You won't catch me clutching my pearls about the precious victim-soldiers.
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Yeah if the military wants to, they can just bring the draft back and ignore all the silly rules. But then it becomes something completely different in terms of the class and income level, and stuff like fragings might happen again or rebellions against command.
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