• VILenin [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The western left is such a complete and utter farce, can't even agree that serving an imperialist army is bad, actually. Any one of these defensive comments could be applied just as well to cops, but these are the international cops that don't affect me, so fuck their victims, I guess.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      It's so fucking sad that even on this site we can't get people to actually view Iraqis and Afghans as human beings.

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Very reminiscent of the "all lives matter" backlash every time a cop murders a minority

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The comment I made applies just as much to former cops, skinheads, coyotes, jihadists, you name it. Moralism is an idealist trap.

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Serving an imperialist army is bad, actually, and it remains bad no matter what you do afterwards. You are at the very least complicit in genocidal American policy.

        You don’t get a free pass just because you’re “former” whatever. Former serial killers still get convicted, former rapists still get convicted, former concentration camp guards still get convicted. You’re not entitled to absolution just because you’re “former”. You’re even less entitled to make it about yourself and how you’re the real victim.

        It’s never, ever anyone’s fault. They were always tricked, they didn’t know, the higher ups made them do it, or whatever the latest excuse is.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'm not really interested in the poverty draft or propaganda arguments. I'm interested in getting more use out of people than executing them or leaving them in jail to rot, if such a thing is feasible (which will vary case by case)

          • VILenin [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Hey, I'm all for getting use out of people. Pretty sure the construction sector will be heavily burdened after any war. But being released from prison/comunnity service/whatever else is not equivalent to absolution or forgiveness. All it means is you've served your sentence. In any case, I'm not going to lose any sleep over US soldiers being subjected to the fury of their victims or waste resources shielding them from the consequences.