But the working class needs much more. And these moments when workers have huge strategic power in a tight labor market are fleeting.

The Nation has been getting more radical as a news outlet and column outlet lately.

Thoughts on the article?

Thoughts on the UPS victory in general?

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I used the archived link since The Nation is behind a paywall nowadays.

    sadness

  • plinky [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    AC good, one tiered great, no reduction in working hours meh

    • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Not sure that would have been popular tbh. Unless they had gotten even bigger raises maybe.

      And they did do some things to rein in overwork during the peak season I thought? At least I recall limiting seasonal workers to a 5 week period and giving non seasonal part timers first dibs on those extra hours if they want them

      Edit: yeah in this article they specify that forced weekend overtime is eliminated so that helps. Or do you specifically mean lowering what counts as full time?

      • plinky [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah i meant full time, 100 years of labor productivity increases yet still 8 hours work days seems like bullshit

        • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I mean it is, that's true. But it may require more union power than even the teamsters have to shift such a huge norm, IMO, and would need to be coupled with equally strong demands for part time workers, which I believe are more than half the workforce

          • plinky [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Depends if they are 24/7 (i would think so), then next natural jump is 6-6.5 hours, which amount to 33 percent jump in wages. They can't bear it as is (their labor and benefits is 11 billion, profit 2 billion roughly), so maybe thats flat out not possible without reducing per hour pay. sadness (depending on which portion is benefits)

            • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              UPS isn't 24/7 really. Package handlers mostly work overnight, though I think there are two shifts? and delivery drivers only work during the day really. I had a buddy that worked there a long time, so this is just from memory ofc

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The article is by Jane Macalevey. It has all the nuance you're adding and more. She's one of the smartest voices on the labor left right now.