Materially, we have set up a system where being right is what gets you punished, and people will hate you for doing something they agree with deep down. Because of the implications it makes about them. In the words of David Graeber, who calls the phenomenon 'Moral Envy', they're saying "How dare you act as if you are morally superior to me (although I do agree that your actions are morally superior to my own.)"
But we’re not talking about some major lifestyle change, playing some video games where the lead character is a woman whose personality doesn’t revolve around her being spankbank material isn’t a huge ask.
She didnt even REALLY say "hey play different games" she moreso was just asking to be critically aware of the content of what you're playing which is some incredibly basic shit.
he moreso was just asking to be critically aware of the content of what you're playing which is some incredibly basic shit
One of her mantras was something like "it's possible to enjoy something while also accepting criticism of it" and I've learned firsthand how impossible that is for some people.
I re-read Lord of the Rings recently. And you know what? It’s definitely got racist elements in it. It sucks. But I can still enjoy the books. It’s just whenever I talk about them now (or even think about them), I do talk about how I like them but the racist parts cannot and should not be ignored.
I agree and I also feel the same way about Dune and it's gender essentialist bullshit and its very on the nose Great Man Theory (granted, it presents the dangers of such a thing but it's not like all the chuds that use the name Mua'dib on the internet noticed).
But a lot of people see even the discussion of problematic elements as some existential threat that they want to about.
Yeah people react VIOLENTLY to being asked to do that. Im not even really clean on that becuase Ive done it before in my life. But some people literally cant do it at all.
because I said that maybe the artists working on the Mortal Kombat franchise shouldn't be required to view gory snuff films just for "authenticity" purposes to keep their jobs and that those artists weren't "privileged" in some magical way that made them deserve psychological trauma to make the treat more "authentic."
I've seen you mention this frequently but yeah thats fucked up. I like MK for the lore and characters (not so much the gameplay lol) but the gore is way too over the top and noone should have to go through that shit.
I've seen you mention this frequently but yeah thats fucked up.
I mention it frequently because it was fucked up. I see it as a high water mark of toxic shit, and I'm still baffled that that user wasn't banned for that and is still around.
I like MK for the lore and characters (not so much the gameplay lol) but the gore is way too over the top and noone should have to go through that shit.
I enjoyed it when it was campy/absurd violence instead of "realistic" and I lost all interest when the "authenticity" became the standard.
I enjoyed it when it was campy/absurd violence instead of "realistic"
Yeah I agree with this. My only caveat is a couple of my favorite characters (Cassie Cage, D'Vorah) come from the era of "authenticity" became the norm. And I did enjoy the story of MKX despite it being one of the "authentic violence" games. Also complete sidenote but the emphasis on guest characters in the current era of MK really puts me off. Not really related but I needed to mention it.
I've learned over time that almost nothing gets people on the internet enraged more than just the uncomfortable thought that maybe they're consuming something that might be bad in some way, be it how it's made, how it's distributed, who is hurt in its production, or just the damaging propaganda built into it.
It's pure do-gooder derogation.
Materially, we have set up a system where being right is what gets you punished, and people will hate you for doing something they agree with deep down. Because of the implications it makes about them. In the words of David Graeber, who calls the phenomenon 'Moral Envy', they're saying "How dare you act as if you are morally superior to me (although I do agree that your actions are morally superior to my own.)"
But we’re not talking about some major lifestyle change, playing some video games where the lead character is a woman whose personality doesn’t revolve around her being spankbank material isn’t a huge ask.
She didnt even REALLY say "hey play different games" she moreso was just asking to be critically aware of the content of what you're playing which is some incredibly basic shit.
One of her mantras was something like "it's possible to enjoy something while also accepting criticism of it" and I've learned firsthand how impossible that is for some people.
I re-read Lord of the Rings recently. And you know what? It’s definitely got racist elements in it. It sucks. But I can still enjoy the books. It’s just whenever I talk about them now (or even think about them), I do talk about how I like them but the racist parts cannot and should not be ignored.
You might enjoy this: https://existentialcomics.com/comic/175
I agree and I also feel the same way about Dune and it's gender essentialist bullshit and its very on the nose Great Man Theory (granted, it presents the dangers of such a thing but it's not like all the chuds that use the name Mua'dib on the internet noticed).
But a lot of people see even the discussion of problematic elements as some existential threat that they want to
about.
Yeah people react VIOLENTLY to being asked to do that. Im not even really clean on that becuase Ive done it before in my life. But some people literally cant do it at all.
Once, I was told to (CW: suicide, gore)
spoiler
slit my own throat and die
because I said that maybe the artists working on the Mortal Kombat franchise shouldn't be required to view gory snuff films just for "authenticity" purposes to keep their jobs and that those artists weren't "privileged" in some magical way that made them deserve psychological trauma to make the treat more "authentic."
And that user still posts here.
I've seen you mention this frequently but yeah thats fucked up. I like MK for the lore and characters (not so much the gameplay lol) but the gore is way too over the top and noone should have to go through that shit.
I mention it frequently because it was fucked up. I see it as a high water mark of toxic
shit, and I'm still baffled that that user wasn't banned for that and is still around.
I enjoyed it when it was campy/absurd violence instead of "realistic" and I lost all interest when the "authenticity"
became the standard.
Yeah I agree with this. My only caveat is a couple of my favorite characters (Cassie Cage, D'Vorah) come from the era of "authenticity" became the norm. And I did enjoy the story of MKX despite it being one of the "authentic violence" games. Also complete sidenote but the emphasis on guest characters in the current era of MK really puts me off. Not really related but I needed to mention it.
Wasn't Robocop present once?
It's woke communism that is literally destroying bideo bames.
cries in vegan
That's one of the most time-honored sources of moral envy, that's for sure.
I've learned over time that almost nothing gets people on the internet enraged more than just the uncomfortable thought that maybe they're consuming something that might be bad in some way, be it how it's made, how it's distributed, who is hurt in its production, or just the damaging propaganda built into it.