cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140

Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true

    • Dr. Jenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube
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      1 year ago

      Yup, my understanding is there is a lot of oil in Ukraine (I think donbas specifically but don't quote me on that). And arguably more importantly, a major pipeline runs through Ukraine. My understanding is the EU is currently very reliant on Russian oil and they would very much like to not be. Hence, why Ukrainian membership to NATO is so attractive.

      I think a lot of people in the West dismiss Putin as a nutjob, but I think there is a rational reason for controlling Ukraine. Oil is Russia's largest export after all.

      All of that isn't meant to excuse Russia; it's unethical to murder for oil. But it's intellectually lazy to dismiss a rational actor (albeit an unethical actor) as crazy. But capitalism gonna capitalism. And until we put an end to capitalism, people are going to continue to murder for money.

        • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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          1 year ago

          It's really not hard to understand. Ukraine discovered huge gas deposits in Donbass, which threatened Muskovy's ability to control the price like they wanted. There was no US coup, and the horrors inflicted have been from Muskovy.

              • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                Google "Jewish scholars double genocide myth" and be ashamed you'd ever use the phrase "red fash" and then do better.

                How does this antisemitism always show up in anticommunism? /s

                • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                  1 year ago

                  Shocking; redfash tries to silence their critics by accusing them of antisemitism with no justification or support whatsoever. Typical red herring from someone who has no real argument.

                  • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    Shocking: anti-communist denies allegations of anti-semitism while repeating nazi propaganda (Google "Jewish scholar double genocide theory" for more info on why equating communism and nazism carries water for nazis)

                    • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                      1 year ago
                      1. straw man, bc I never claimed double genocide, and 2) just bc double genocide can be used by Nazis doesn't mean it isn't true. Dialectics has really rotted your brain, comrade
                      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                        1 year ago

                        You're equating communists and fascists by calling communists red fash. You're doing a double genocide theory rhetoric.

                        • mashbooq@infosec.pub
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                          1 year ago

                          No, I'm calling communists what they are: fascists. You extrapolated the rest in your head and argued against it, i.e. a straw man. Dialectics at its finest