It's been over a day of federation. Does it take longer, or does someone have to manually add Hexbear?
https://join-lemmy.org/instances
The admin of join-lemmy thinks we are already on it. They don't want to remove the nazis because they are afraid someone will ask to remove hexbear.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/2389941
They don't want to remove the nazis because they are afraid someone will ask to remove hexbear.
you can always just say "no, fuck off"
what are they gonna do? be just as annoying as they usually are? go back to reddit? make voat 2?
The instance list is fine as is. Think about it like this: do you want racists to join a single instance so they are all in one place? Or do you want them to spread across all different instances, causing moderation problems everywhere?
I want to be charitable here and assume this is in good faith, but I can't help but point out that this is almost one-for-one the containment board logic non-/pol/ 4channers used to justify the existence of /pol/.
Honestly, if removing them gets us removed, that is a good decision. We'll outpost them anyways.
but he controls the fucking list, so who cares about impartiality, do the thing that is good to do for the platform and for spreading socialism
Yadda yadda structural materialist consequences etc. etc.
Not that I disagree with you, it's just a radical departure from what lemmy has been doing, which means it is unlikely. Idk what the whole financial situation is, but I would bet that there is some degree of incentive in keeping them around aside from purely freeze-peach ideology.
If the response then is to acquiesce to helping reactionary platforms continue to grow, that means you've already been co-opted. If you can't not do advertising for Nazis, what kind of revolutionary change are you promoting?
https://hexbear.net/comment/3675074 made a call out there, heckle him more in the replies :)
Go into the thread, find a comment by someone from Hexbear, and click the little colorful icon next to their comment--that brings up that comment on Hexbear, from which you can get to the full thread.
Or you can just go to it here: https://hexbear.net/post/285151
I think it's because the original comment is from an instance we might not be federated with
ugh its so dumb that we cant reply to shit that is posted to another instance just because of defed, makes threads weird as fuck, you dont get the full fucking thread
I think that user is on an instance that doesn't federate with us :( You'll have to make an account over on lemmy.ml, I'm afraid.
That isn't just any user, it's a Beehaw admin. And @nutomic@lemmy.ml is mocking them for being a ban-happy admin who's asking someone else to block something.
Yeah but the top-level comment is from someone at slrpnk.net; if that instance federated, we wouldn't see the beehaw admin arguing (rightly) in favor of dropping the nazis from join-lemmy, but we'd still see Nutomic's response to the top-level comment and could call him a lib there.
https://old.slrpnk.net/post/1037372
I guess they are somewhat less tankie leaning, but make up for it with shere toxicity and low effort shit-posting. I don’t really want to have to moderate that here all the time given that their admins are highly unlikely to do it on their end.
Maybe their current toxic community will dilute out a bit over time and removing them from the block list could be considered in the future.
They did the same preemptive defederation lemmy world did, despite user disagreement.
Solarpunk is a (mostly) aesthetic-cultural and (sometimes) ethical-political tendency
Solarpunk instance has no punk. It’s liberalism wanting a few more plants around. But at least they state upfront they are into aesthetics over politics, I guess?
Yeah I wasn't advocating for federating with them, just pointing out that it's that instance, not beehaw, that keeps us from seeing that part of the thread entirely. Honestly I think lemm.ee and lemmy.ml are providing a plentiful supply of libs to dunk on as it is, no need to add a bunch more (in retrospect we owe the dot world admins some gratitude lol)
Of course. The slander and libel of our admins and mods for being ‘toxic and lazy’ now makes sense with context.
Wait what instance is the one with nazis in it? Seems pretty obvious to me to only advertise the instances that aren't batshit insane, if they wanna find those the nutcases can dig
I'm just finding it absolutely hilarious how so many liberal-lemmy admins seem terrified of us.
“They look like they can’t downbear content on other instances, but the hexbear ui actually has a superdownbear -10 function that they use to send anyone they target into the negatives. The admins of hexbear have a stickied post on all pages encouraging users to take trains to data centers of Lemmy instances with giant spoon-shaped electromagnets to erase SSDs of liberal instances.”
I'm pretty sure its a curated list made by the devs, they dont put anything psycho on it
exploding-heads[.]com and rammy[.]site, both Nazi instances, are listed
i'm not sure sure - it's got exploding-heads, the explicitly nazi instance
The joinlemmy crawler is throwing an error on hexbear.net. Problem is that
/api/v3/siteis returning an unexpected value forversionwhich fails to be parsed. You can run the crawler yourself to reproduce:cargo run -- --start-instances hexbear.net --verbose 5 Finished dev [unoptimized] target(s) in 0.28s Running `target/debug/lemmy-stats-crawler --start-instances hexbear.net --verbose 5` Crawling... DEBUG - Worker 0 starting job hexbear.net at distance 0 TRACE - Job hexbear.net errored with: unexpected character '.' after patch version number Crawl complete, took 1s Number of Lemmy instances: 0 Total users: 0 Half year active users: 0 Monthly active users: 0 Weekly active users: 0 Daily active users: 0 Use --json flag to get machine readable outputSo it currently only supports versions like
1.2.3. You can either change the version number or change the crawler code to make it work.
