With trump being guaranteed to win the 2024 election and it also being likely that the state will be much more violent, what do you think is going to happen in the US over the next few years?

  • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    I live in Florida. My vote doesn't matter here anyways, so I'm just going to cast a protest vote for whatever leftish third party there is to get the catharsis of flipping off the Democrats, though they're still largely unaffected and will keep failing upward.

    Still, at the same time, I guess my knowledge of this country's history makes me scared of reactionary mob violence during periods of instability. I mean, I do live in a part of the country where that was more common place a century ago. And also, as unlikely as it is, this state also has a record of active discrimination against queer people in public employment. I guess when I gaze at the past for examples, I find some scenarios that are less likely given present differing conditions.

    • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I hear you but, two things, one I think any instability that's coming is coming regardless of the fact someone took a pot shit at Trump. Even if he looses there's probably bad stuff on the horizon.

      Two, I do stand by my point I don't think the right has many great targets for their mob violence right now. There are no socialist clubs, union halls or civil rights churches to burn. There's not left to threaten them. The right has anti-queer rhetoric but most queer gathering places are in liberal enclaves where the right has little on the ground power. Hence why I think most of the rights anti-queer stuff is going to be boring legal crap, still awful but not as dramatic a Night of Broken Glass situation. There'll be isolated lone wolf acts but I doubt they'll be a major purge.

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        one I think any instability that's coming is coming regardless of the fact someone took a pot shit at Trump. Even if he looses there's probably bad stuff on the horizon.

        I don't disagree with you there. The effects of climate change and the politics they produce happens no matter who's in charge at this point. So much suffering could have been avoided if years ago people had calmly sat down, planned a green transition, and made provisions for any instability that would affect vulnerable populations at the equator during the short term. But of course, planning anything is evil 1984 communism to these people.

        The right has anti-queer rhetoric but most queer gathering places are in liberal enclaves where the right has little on the ground power.

        I find this a compelling argument against any dramatic displays of non state violence by the far right in the near term future.

        Hence why I think most of the rights anti-queer stuff is going to be boring legal crap

        Which is where I get worried about Russian gay laws coming to Florida. I had wanted to pursue a career in public education years earlier and the state of Florida had a history of publicly persecuting queer teachers. Idk, I'm pretty straight-passing but, maybe some day the state will spend resources to comb through social media and find a bi flag post I liked or something. Maybe I should leave this state for some more accepting place in the medium term.