Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They've been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren't Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it's bots or wumao. Human beings can't possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

  • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    11 months ago

    We all hope. In all honesty it seems like Xi actually believes and the fact that Chinese leadership is confident in him as their leader gives me a lot of hope. I would hate to see China devolve into another neoliberal dead end but given how well materialist-based development has served them it's hard to see that happening.

    That said there will eventually be a big painful moment where they have to deal with the liberal elements and we are all going to be sitting on the sidelines wishing the best. You know, when we're not busy riding around in Priuses stocked with miniguns stealing breast milk from milk town

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      It really depends on how they deal with the inevitable development crises, though they continue to handle themselves well so far. As long as they don't let the fucking Shanghai clique dictate policy they should be fine, but there is a lot of money rolling around in that area and I never count the bourgeoise out until they are pushing up daisies. Fortunately, people, especially in Beijing, generally seem to hate the Shanghai clique because they fuck up so many government mandates, so they will likely only continue to play a marginal role in government for the foreseeable future. That said, it definitely seems to be one of those cases of 'friends close, enemies closer.' which is a difficult thing to juggle, particularly when they keep clumsily trying to stab you in the back.

      Yup, I hope I am around to watch it happen, but I really doubt it at this point. What will really be interesting is to see who ends up taking over after Xi, because he is an very talented politician. Now I can be called a 'Xi shill'.

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        11 months ago

        I too doubt I'll be around for it. I'm not even sure I'll want to be around for it, I've had such a shit time dealing with major depression for most my life I doubt I have the chops to deal with whatever's coming over the next few decades. There is, I think, a perverse fantasy of being some kind of gun toting leftist doing good in the world as it all falls apart but sadly I think I would more easily put the gun to myself.

        Probably be too old to be some kind of armed resistance by the time it matters anyways. Best I can hope for is to pass down some amount of knowledge of self reliance and communal aid to the kids who will really need to be there when it matters. I guess a lot of us are in the same boat. Would be nice if there was a crazy project like revolutionary Spain to join in now. People like me could really use an international Marxist brigade to at least give some meaning to our latter years, in light of failure to adjust to the grinding system we live in

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          Well, depending on what happens in the Philippines over the next decade or so, you might get your wish. That said, if that does go off there is a very good chance that you would be facing weapons from China, hence where my level of critique does come from. We'll see though, the future is wild and very silly.

          • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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            11 months ago

            I've met enough people from the Philippines that I hope they don't go through too much shit. Like most southeast Asians there some of the nicest folks I've ever met (well, not the weird semi-fascist ones). Working towards a revolution somewhere would be a helluva lot better than rotting here in the imperial core, though.

        • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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          11 months ago

          Nobody knows when a truly revolutionary moment will occur. That revolutionary moment will only develop into an armed struggle if 1) the masses of people see it as legitimate and 2) the masses of people have (or are able to) organize a strong institution(s) of working class power in that moment. You could definitely live to see it. I don't think, particularly given the climate collapse, that we have much time to wait around or be complacent. It is definitely true that the global south will continue to be the locus of revolution, but we know as that contradictions exist everywhere and that they will eventually come to a head.

          Revolution will always appear and be formed by the forces that currently exist in that moment. If you have come this far in your political development, then you can easily build towards 2, which is the most essential component to create a working-class revolution (and essential for 1 to occur at all). But all of these things take work, and you can work on them now. Sharing your knowledge on self reliance and communal aid is invaluable. You can and will also develop net skills as you organize. The work of building working class power it just that: work. Nobody else will do it for us. Don't give up, and don't fall prey to far off fantasies when the real world is in front of you and requires your help. Things will change. Organizing can feel feckless at times, but if you approach it scientifically then

          I do not think that life will change for the better without an assault on the Establishment, which goes on exploiting the wretched of the earth. This belief lies at the heart of the concept of revolutionary suicide. Thus it is better to oppose the forces that would drive me to self-murder than to endure them. Although I risk the likelihood of death, there is at least the possibility, if not the probability, of changing intolerable conditions. This possibility is important, because much in human existence is based upon hope without any real understanding of the odds. Indeed, we are all—Black and white alike—ill in the same way, mortally ill. But before we die, how shall we live? I say with hope and dignity; and if premature death is the result, that death has a meaning reactionary suicide can never have. It is the price of self-respect.

          Revolutionary suicide does not mean that I and my comrades have a death wish; it means just the opposite. We have such a strong desire to live with hope and human dignity that existence without them is impossible. When reactionary forces crush us, we must move against these forces, even at the risk of death. We will have to be driven out with a stick. - huey newton