cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5141613

From the Tweet:

"The Communist Party USA is saddened to learn about the passing of General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong. Our Party sends condolences to all members of the Communist Party of Vietnam and to all the people of Vietnam."

  • I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    The CPUSA has also hosted a speaker from the CPC in the years past, but this is for the purposes of fostering internationalism it doesn't indicate they've taken this geopolitically clueless stance of ordering Russian troops "out of Ukraine". CPUSA and most of IMCWP as far as I am aware sides with the KKE on Ukraine. Articles by leadership of CPUSA with actual power describes an alliance against Trump as the #1 prerogative of this election. That's pretty duplicitous considering all of their friendly talk about the CPC they are willing to put out there are well. Our relatively impotent situation should cement to people the urgency of building power outside the uniparty of war and global debt slavery.

    • Makan@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Actually, most of the IMCWP does not side with the KKE; the KKE is at odds with everyone else in the IMCWP.

      CPUSA has a peace stance vis a vis the Ukraine war and goes by the policy of other communist parties.

      What you describe is not duplicitous and you have yet to explain really why.

        • comradecalzone@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          Re: "calling Russia military operation in Ukraine illegal"

          You're right, a part of the party's position is that it was wrong and in violation of International Law. The suffering of the working class has escalated as a consequence of the war.

          But this alone would be a surface level analysis. The party recognizes:

          • The presence of U.S. bases and military forces near Russia's western border are rightfully seen as threats by Russia.
          • U.S. imperialism and NATO's expansions, including the attempt to bring Ukraine into the military alliance, has heightened tensions.
          • Agreements reached in 2014 with respect to the autonomy of 4 million Russians living in Luhansk and Donetsk their autonomy have never been implemented by Ukraine’s government.
          • The 2014 U.S.-backed coup in Ukraine and subsequent slaughter of separatists by the fascist Azov Battalion and brought tensions to a boiling point.

          Thus, our "main task has to be to work to develop a peace movement and to change the Biden administration’s policy. That’s the best way and only way to support the workers of Russia and Ukraine." Not idealistically decry Russia's actions and do nothing, despite US-imperialism creating the situation in the first place. That is the core of our position, that which informs our priorities and our actions.

          • I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS [none/use name]
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            5 months ago

            That's the weird part, it's easier to deal with completely clueless randoms who don't understand Ukraine's post-Maidan government has been conducting ethnic cleansing campaigns that started a civil war than it is to deal with people upholding the CPUSA's line. Here the CPUSA is telling me I need to be pragmatic and push the democrats left by siding with them in an "anti-Trump coalition", because actually Putin should have been even more idle and insensitive in the face of the ethnic cleansing. I don't really want to debate whether the party is run by Bidenists after the way they've treated people who tried to talk about the genocide, versus the way they've treated the Communist Party of Israel.

            Why do they line up with the KKE in condemning the SMO for the past 2 years? Why do they blame Russia for the post-Maidan govt purging communists?

            Every time I talk to CPUSA people they just say no no no we don't believe that and then my RSS feed updates with an article by Joe Sims that's even worse on an issue like AOC. What the hell is even going on in there guys?

      • I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        What's the full listing for parties on each side of the split? I don't mean to spread misinformation here. I call this duplicitous because the CPUSA does not have a peace stance on the war in Ukraine, when they say "Russian troops out of Ukraine" they mean the return of the territories considered to be Ukraine by the post Maidan government. This is based on the idea that NATO and Russia are both imperialist powers justifying "revolutionary defeatism". Most Marxists in the global south as far as I know have a more dependency minded view of Russia as a semi-peripheral state which has aligned with the periphery? Am I Bowlderizing this lol? Because using anti-imperialist messaging to convince people they are being represented by a party that scolds and threatens clubs into falling in line with their democrat tailism is a betrayal of the efforts of the members who end up getting purged trying to discuss a sane line on Palestine for instance.