Hi there, I'm not trying to start a political argument or anything, I'm just curious what people here think about this often repeated claim that the Federation is a socialist or even communist utopia? I know Strange New Worlds did say in dialogue it is socialist but I was wondering if people here think that's accurate? I'm not a communist or a marxist or anything like that, but I've had people who identify as such tell me the Federation basically is communist. So anyway, what's your thoughts?

        • buckykat [none/use name]
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          5 months ago

          Well yes, but more broadly because you keep using words without knowing what they mean

            • buckykat [none/use name]
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              5 months ago

              Dictatorship, socialist, communist, liberal, rights, private property

              Really pretty much all of the relevant terms here

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                5 months ago

                This particular string of replies was you doing a stupendously poor job of explaining anything or accomplishing anything but looking like a snob. It would be better to say nothing than to be an asshole to someone who has done nothing worse than be a slightly frustrating liberal in their own thread on a non-communist instance.

    • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Given this thread is about whether or not the Federation is a communist or socialist society, Marxist definitions are the most useful, eh? Furthermore, I'd argue that the term Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie very accurately describes American (I'm an American) society, and does so regardless of one's personal beliefs.

      • MrSaturn@startrek.website
        hexagon
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        5 months ago

        Well there are non Marxist socialist/communist models and systems but I take your point. I was just answering you because you responded to why I'm not a communist, that's all

        • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          Again, perfectly fair. Before I was a communist, I rejected Marxist concepts as well. I've spent over two decades reading and listening to arguments for and against all sort of political, social and economic ideas. I've identified with centrism, liberalism, libertarianism, social democracy and other ideologies. Today, I consider myself to be a Marxist/socialist/communist not because it's just the latest thing I've hit upon, but because it's what's made the most sense to me. When I use Marxist words and ideas, I don't do so because I'm a Marxist; I'm a Marxist because those words and ideas have helped me to make the most sense of the world. And I'm certainly not demanding, or even asking, you do become a Marxist, I'm just asking you to consider what makes the most sense.

          mario-thumbs-up