As a dude I wish this was true but the fact is that some dudettes and dudenbys are not down with being called "dude" and doing so is disrespectful and very Un-dude.
Yeah, this is true and I've experienced this. As a kid, I would say dudette too because of this.
But now I honestly think dude has transcended gender at this point. I understand some people don't feel comfortable being called dude due to considering it gendered, so I, ironically, only use it in a gendered way to not make people uncomfortable, but I genuinely think it's gone beyond its original gendered form. I won't call people that if they don't want to be called it though.
IMO "dude" as an interjectory term of direct address is fairly gender neutral (as in, "Dude, not cool!"), but if someone says "that dude" I assume they're referring to a man; in fact, the first time I wrote this sentence I naturally wrote, "I assume they're referring to a dude"! It's similar to how "man" can be as an interjection ("Man, I could really use a drink"), although in that case "man" often lacks an actual referent whereas "dude" typically has one. The interjection bit is key--"Sup, dude?" is heavily masculine-coded to me, although perhaps not as exclusive as "that dude."
That's all to say that if you referred to an audience as "dudes" I would assume they're all men. On the other hand, "you(se) guys" to me is fully neutral and I hear groups of women refer to each other that way all the time, although I try my best to use more explicitly inclusive language when addressing people whose preferences I'm not sure of. Language is fun!
I prefer the gender neutral form dude.
We're all dudes on this glorious day.
Fair point my fellow dude
I agree, dude is gender neutral.
As a dude I wish this was true but the fact is that some dudettes and dudenbys are not down with being called "dude" and doing so is disrespectful and very Un-dude.
Yeah, this is true and I've experienced this. As a kid, I would say dudette too because of this.
But now I honestly think dude has transcended gender at this point. I understand some people don't feel comfortable being called dude due to considering it gendered, so I, ironically, only use it in a gendered way to not make people uncomfortable, but I genuinely think it's gone beyond its original gendered form. I won't call people that if they don't want to be called it though.
IMO "dude" as an interjectory term of direct address is fairly gender neutral (as in, "Dude, not cool!"), but if someone says "that dude" I assume they're referring to a man; in fact, the first time I wrote this sentence I naturally wrote, "I assume they're referring to a dude"! It's similar to how "man" can be as an interjection ("Man, I could really use a drink"), although in that case "man" often lacks an actual referent whereas "dude" typically has one. The interjection bit is key--"Sup, dude?" is heavily masculine-coded to me, although perhaps not as exclusive as "that dude."
That's all to say that if you referred to an audience as "dudes" I would assume they're all men. On the other hand, "you(se) guys" to me is fully neutral and I hear groups of women refer to each other that way all the time, although I try my best to use more explicitly inclusive language when addressing people whose preferences I'm not sure of. Language is fun!