Is it more ethical to consume plants just because they react to pain differently than us?
Yes. If I could power myself with the sun I would. I can't, so I eat plants, because it objectively causes the less pain.
Watch dominion and stop eating cadaver parts
The "plants can feel" argument is one of the most recurrent and brain-wormed one among carnists and it's exhausting
Stop supporting the systemic torture, rape and killing of sentient beings just for your pleasure. You know you're wrong, you know; either consciously or subconsciously, but the debate has never been complicated. Your "argument" is an attempt - again, conscious or not - to justify the pain you cause to feel OK
So it cycles back to utilitarianism in the end, lol... (/s)
I want to make it clear that I do not support capitalism, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. I was simply indulging myself in my new favorite hobby, Leto II Atreides-esque absurd philosophical tangents.
Personally I view veganism as similar to owning electric vehicles--- attempting to make up for the failures of capitalists. Even if I do not consume meat the capitalists will output vastly more greenhouse gasses than a lifetime of primitivism could possibly cover for. Nothing will change unless we have socialism.
As for morality, I have none to speak of whatsoever given what I've thought of, said, and written in the past and present. However I've come to respect vegan comrades for being able to sacrifice their personal pleasure for the benefit of others. As for me, I'm just a weirdo in normie skin...
Yes. If I could power myself with the sun I would. I can't, so I eat plants, because it objectively causes the less pain.
Watch dominion and stop eating cadaver parts
The "plants can feel" argument is one of the most recurrent and brain-wormed one among carnists and it's exhausting
Stop supporting the systemic torture, rape and killing of sentient beings just for your pleasure. You know you're wrong, you know; either consciously or subconsciously, but the debate has never been complicated. Your "argument" is an attempt - again, conscious or not - to justify the pain you cause to feel OK
So it cycles back to utilitarianism in the end, lol... (/s)
I want to make it clear that I do not support capitalism, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. I was simply indulging myself in my new favorite hobby, Leto II Atreides-esque absurd philosophical tangents.
I'm sorry if I was a bit harsh. Still, stop eating animal products, please, your survival don't depend on it, it's weird and monstrous.
I myself also love Dune
And "philosophical tangents" is an appropriate description for the whole book about Leto lmao
Personally I view veganism as similar to owning electric vehicles--- attempting to make up for the failures of capitalists. Even if I do not consume meat the capitalists will output vastly more greenhouse gasses than a lifetime of primitivism could possibly cover for. Nothing will change unless we have socialism.
As for morality, I have none to speak of whatsoever given what I've thought of, said, and written in the past and present. However I've come to respect vegan comrades for being able to sacrifice their personal pleasure for the benefit of others. As for me, I'm just a weirdo in normie skin...