I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

    • magi [null/void]
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      3 months ago

      Obsidian are nowhere near the same company that put out new vegas.

      Avowed got delayed to Feb 2025, it also looked poor the last time I viewed a trailer

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        Josh Sawyer is still making cool games. A lot of the other people who worked on FONV are retired or working somewhere else at this point.

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        Still making cool games.

        I mostly mean Pentiment lol

        • magi [null/void]
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          3 months ago

          I'm not a Josh fan, the main writer left to write Horizon Zero Dawn after being forced out of Obsidian, Avelone well he's freelance still iirc.

          Obsidian haven't really done anything great in a while and they lack good writing. It's also not a great place to work under as far as i've heard. I don't expect them to do much better after Pillars 2 was disappointing and a lot of their games under performing.

          Avowed looks like a skyrim clone and I am not a skyrim fan

          • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            It's also not a great place to work under as far as i've heard.

            This doesn't surprise me at all

            Avowed looks like a skyrim clone and I am not a skyrim fan

            I'm pretty sure it's not even going to be a good Skyrim clone at this rate lol

            • magi [null/void]
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              3 months ago

              It's going to be a cut down Skyrim, not sure if it's open world. The last reveal trailer looked like it's going to be poor, barely showed off dialog either and that's a bad sign when they crow on about choice and consequence in the marketing spiel.

              • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 months ago

                I'm thinking Fallout 4:Starfield::The Outer Worlds:Avowed if that makes sense (not that I've played Starfield though, lol)