Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there's some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.

Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.

So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.

  • booty [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

    They are, it's called the capitalist class.

    And your information is incorrect, hexbear is one of the oldest Lemmy instances, and we've always been among the most active. My account is over 3 years old. It's just that we only federated recently.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      It's so strange how all the rich news companies would report in a way that supports the interests of rich people. So weird!

    • Menachem@midwest.social
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist. Everyone knows that reporting is where the big bucks truly lie. I guess it's impossible for literally anyone living anywhere but the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist to report on anything accurately.

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        who pays the journalists? who sets editorial policy? who prevents the journalists from unionizing?

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Who fires them if they disobey orders, and shuts down the whole paper just to prevent competition from the rags they outright own?

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Ford Foundation Carnegie Corporation

            Lmao you just owned yourself with this link. I love when libs link wikipedia links they havent actually read.

            • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Fair enough, I was wrong about ProPublica.

              I'm sure you'll find this quote from the Wikipedia entry on the Ford Foundation interesting:

              "John J. McCloy, the architect of Office of Strategic Services that would later become Central Intelligence Agency served as the chairman of the Ford Foundation.[74] The CIA would channel its funds through Ford Foundation as a part of its covert cultural war.[75][76][77] John J. McCloy, serving as the chairman from 1958–1965, knowingly employed numerous US intelligence agents and, based on the premise that a relationship with the CIA was inevitable, set up a three-person committee responsible for dealing with its requests.[78][79] Writer and activist Arundhati Roy connects the foundation, along with the Rockefeller Foundation, with supporting imperialist efforts by the U.S. government during the Cold War."

              • DankXiaobong [comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                This is indeed interesting. What does that tell you about the state of western media?

                Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere https://youtu.be/NK1tfkESPVY

                Obv the military industrial complex grew significantly since the release of this

                • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  What does that tell you about the state of western media?

                  Trying to generalize based on a single example is poor reasoning.

                  YouTube: I don't do YouTube, sorry, no offense to you or whatever you're trying to convey.

                  • DankXiaobong [comrade/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    Trying to generalize based on a single example is poor reasoning.

                    But willful ignorance leads to good reasoning, right?

                    Youtube

                    Just use ublock like the rest of us

                    • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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                      1 year ago

                      But willful ignorance leads to good reasoning, right?

                      No, you're willfully ignorant. Great argument.

                      I don't use YouTube because it's full of misinformation and I don't like watching videos.

                      • DankXiaobong [comrade/them]
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                        1 year ago

                        I don't use YouTube because it's full of misinformation

                        How do you determine what's misinformation and what not?

                        and I don't like watching videos.

                        If you're the reading type go with inventing reality by parenti or manufacturing consent by Chomsky

                        Your Wikipedia "source" was challenged and you found how the CIA is involved on your own.. Do the same next time you read anything about china or other aes

          • DankXiaobong [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            While the Sandler Foundation provided ProPublica with significant financial support, it also has received funding from the Knight Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts, Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Atlantic Philanthropies.

            Lol u can't be serious

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I just want to point out how funny it is that you have zero points on this post considering none of the hexbear bRiGaDerS have the ability to downvote

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The idea that media companies in the the west are subservient to the interests of capital and the military industrial state isn't even a "tankie" take on the left. Similar ideas have been espoused by many people across the left, the most famous of which being Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist

        You sound like an immensely condescending chauvinist. Does Cuba not live up to your very informed view on communism?

      • usa_suxxx
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        14 days ago

        deleted by creator

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I'm glad there are liberals like you around to tell us communists who is really communist

      • panopticon [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Is the executive of the media company that owns the news outlet also a journalist? Is the financial conglomerate that owns the media company as well as the missile company, also a journalist? Come on, you must have thought at least once in your life about this actually existing hierarchy of capitals and how it influences what news gets published and who gets to work as a journalist.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist.

        Do the journalists you read personally hand their writings to you? Or is there some intermediary that gets them to you, some wealthy entity that handles the publishing of those writings?

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist.

        Ah yes, the classic wealthy Amazon worker. Everyone knows that having a logistics and retail monopoly is where the big bucks truly lie.

        Obviously because the lowest level worker in this industry is not wealthy themselves, it means that suggesting the industry as a whole is both owned and serves the interests of entrenched power and wealth IS BIG DUMB LOL

        internet-delenda-est

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        class is about your relationship to the means of production, not your income