[Discussion] Should votes be displayed publicly? · Issue #4967 · LemmyNet/lemmy
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Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...

I really wanted to post this on !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net but I'm not trans myself and I didn't want to take up their space.

Basically, the devs of Lemmy are looking to make upvotes public to everyone. Right now, I believe voter identities are known to server admins and mods.

I don't have a strong opinion on this myself, either for or against, as I write this comment, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing, frankly as a cishet dude.

But also... I've kinda lost trust in Nutomic making decisions about the software that won't make things worse for trans people since his comments on the Olympics were made public. Dessalines has (so far) at least tolerated Nutomic's transphobia despite whatever prior rhetoric. Frankly, I am suspicious that trans people don't matter to the Lemmy dev team...to be charitable...so I'd really like to hear your thoughts.

  • SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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    27 days ago

    mainstream social media rules from the 3rd most racist site in the universe

    Hiding a user's votes is not what turned Reddit into what it is. Showing a user's votes, however, enables a lot of the worst behavior on sites like X, and I don't want to see that stuff start happening on Lemmy. Frankly the best solution is what Hexbear already did - remove downvotes entirely.

      • SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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        27 days ago

        If you could direct me to the scientific study that compared social media sites with and without hidden likes/upvotes, then I would be happy to read it. Otherwise we're both going off of vibes so fuck you.

        • I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS [none/use name]
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          27 days ago

          First of all, because the Lemmy dev sucks at coding, and you guys are on ActivityPub, I can see all likes publicly anyways. What you're doing is like pretending Mastodon private posts are actually private. It's just an inconvenience.

          You're the only one making vibes based claims about why Elon was right to hide likes.

          This is typical ActivityPub jibber jabber. You had one bad experience with another user abusing a feature, so nobody else gets to have it. Guess what? People use blocking maliciously. I'm using the reply feature right now maliciously.

          I'm stating the obvious about how much easier platform manipulation is for instance admins - who have a conflict of interest about this - and itinerant technoskulkers like me to be the only ones who can tell when something is fishy with the likes.

          The "stop bullying" argument for destroying ActivityPub is always so fucking funny to me. You people removed quote tweets. I can't quote myself on basic Mastodon or search my own posts because people like you get taken seriously. But fortunately basic Mastodon sucks for many other reasons. It's no skin off my back. Just validates my instincts about these projects when people try to pass off their personal issues as a reason to make platforms worse.