• Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Mexico isn't fucking inviting the US to do it. They want the US to fuck off.

    • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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      1 year ago

      Still, misleading title, he's not proposing a war. Could it potentially lead to war? Yeah but it's very, very unlikely Mexico would actually declare war on America.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        What the fuck do you think putting your military into another country uninvited is? What the fuck are you doing quibbling over "potentially" a war or not? What you're essentially saying here is that you're ok with it as long if Mexico cowers and doesn't fight back.

        This is a disgusting level of nationalism. You're already making excuses for america.

        • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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          1 year ago

          Typical hexbears to shove words down throats.

          I never said I wasn't against this, I'm merely saying the title should've been something like, "Ron DeSantis proposes uninvited drone strikes on Mexican cartel"

          • trudge [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            "The American Supreme Court gives individual states the right to choose in reversal of Roe vs Wade"

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            How dare you shove my words back into my mouth! I wasn't endorsing it! I was merely using Bush era talking points to obscure the reality of those actions and diminish their impact!

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Why should a title help obscure the reality of calling to commit acts of war against our neighbor

      • Redcat [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You're acting like a coward who's only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.

        • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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          1 year ago

          Buddy all I'm saying is the title is misleading. I'm obviously against the US bombing Mexican cartels, I just don't think it's going to start a war.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            If you think the US would be disciplined about only attacking cartels after seeing the War on Terror, I have a bridge to sell you

          • Redcat [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Yes, you know that the US can do almost anything it wants and that it won't trigger a war with Mexico. It can sanction thousands or millions to death by starvation and lack of medical supplies. It can bomb people. It can seize and occupy territory if it really wants to. Not because the US wouldn't be waging war then, but because the Mexicans and the rest of latin america are too weak to fight back. And in knowing this you can then claim that, actually, 'this is misleading 4/5 pinocchios Ron DeSantis only wants the right to do a little gunboat diplomacy with capital punishment characteristics and that's not really a war'.

            I'm sure that if China drone bombed someone in New York the Americans would be super chill about it.

      • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        when you order your military to blow up people in another country that doesn't want you to do that, I'd say its pretty close to a war.

        Honestly you're a liberal so I never expected you to be smart but this is next level idiocy

        no, BEYOND next level, stratosphere shit

      • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        The US hasn't declared a war since WW2, they've still gone to war. Neither the US nor Libya declared war on each other but it still counts as a war when the US bombs the absolute shit out of a country.

          • mar_k [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Libya was military intervention not war.

            not-hillary

          • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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            1 year ago

            checkmate! it can’t be called a war if we simply lob misiles at a country and arm every lunatic we find, completely destroying it in the process smuglord

            • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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              1 year ago

              Well yeah, you OBJECTIVELY can't call what happened in Libya a "war". It was bad and unnecessary, but by definition, not a war... You did not have US troops fighting Libyan troops.

              • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                So because the US troops were using weapons the Libyan troops couldn't effectively fight back against, it doesn't count as a war?

                "It wasn't a battle, it was a just a massacre, so it's OK"

                • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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                  1 year ago

                  You're fighting with the air. I very clearly said Libya wasn't ok.

                  You're right, massacres aren't battles and we shouldn't call them that. Of course that doesn't make it any better but why call it a battle if it's not?

                  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    So if Libyan forces had managed to shoot down a western bomber, you would consider it a war?

                        • Bernie2028@midwest.social
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                          1 year ago

                          Ok I'm gonna be honest I'm probably wrong, I was thinking semantically but googling that was a surprise for me. Just didn't want the hexbears to be right.

                          • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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                            1 year ago

                            Its cool that you admitted you just didn't want anyone from hexbear to be right. That takes a lot of insight. You should consider opening your mind now to the possibility that you could be wrong about much more. You reflexive distaste for hexbear probably has more to do with your own cognitive dissonance than whether our opinions are wrong. Most of the people (bots) on hexbear were (are) libs too, but at some point opened their minds and began to approach history, political-economy, and current events with a more critical eye.

          • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Of course, I forgot when you call it something other than war then it's not a war! That's why we have the Korean Police Action, the Vietnam Police Action, the Police Actions in Panama and Grenada, Desert Police Action 1 & 2 in Iraq, and the Global Police Action on Terror! None of those were wars, right?