Another comrade wrote this. It is good advice so I am posting it here.


I've made comments in the past asserting that the vast majority of all firearm activities can be done with just 5 different guns. I still stand by this. I believe that anyone, with a gun from each of these categories, can participate, in a meaningful way, in most gun-related things. Not necessarily at the highest level, and not every single discipline or subcategory. For example, having a Ruger 10/22 will gain you entry into a whole host of target shooting and competitive disciplines, but it won't be good enough or even legal to shoot in Olympic smallbore- you'll need something else. Your deer rifle with a Nikon Prostaff cope chambered in i.270 WIN might shoot 0.75 MOA at 200 yards and will allow you to compete, even well, in a PRS match, but you probably won't beat the dude launching handloaded 6.5 Creedmoor pills out of their GA Precision rifle with a Nightforce scope. It also won't be good enough to go hunt a coastal brown bear in Alaka- you'll need something else for that. This isn't to belittle inexpensive or general purpose gear. The opposite case is my thesis.

The 3 main categories of firearms-related activities generally are: defensive use, recreational use (collecting, competition, non-competitive target shooting), and hunting. I separate hunting from recreational use, even though almost all hunting is considered recreational in some way, since the gear is more practical and use-driven (food security is no laughing matter), as opposed to "just for fun" or novelty for its own sake. If there is a flaw in my viewpoint, perhaps that would be it- let's discuss in the comments. I think the only aspect of recreational use that isn't really addressed by owning 5 general purpose guns is collecting. Modern, common, and/or inexpensive firearms are not necessarily collectible (almost by definition) and their use is focused around practicality instead of design novelty, rarity, historical provenance, etc. But competitive shooting, and recreational shooting can be entered into in a meaningful way with 5 guns.

This post means to show that while special purpose gear outlcasses general purpose gear for those special purposes, for the average user, general purpose gear gets you so much performance and so much value, that you should focus on it over special gear, UNLESS A SPECIFIC and SPECIAL NEED arises from your experience that DICTATES A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIAL GEAR. Most people do not shoot enough to warrant buying super niche items. Start with these 5, learn to shoot, learn and develop your own needs and interests, then branch off into technical la-la-land and transcend into full gun nerd.

Bottom Line 5 guns:

  • Semi-auto, striker-fired, polymer-framed 9mm pistol. HK VP9, Walther PPQ, Glock 19, Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0, Sig P320, Ruger SR9, or CZ P-10C are great places to start. Good quality, decently priced. Look for police trade-ins, used versions. These pistols can be had for under $600 new, as little as $350 used. By a concealed carry holster (r/ccw can help with this- body fitment is personal and unique), 3-5 extra magazines, and hit the range. Consider a weapon light down the road.

  • 16" barrel, mid length gas system AR15 with an adjustable stock and preferably an M-Lock handguard. Buy the rifle from Midwest Industries, Aero Precision, Ruger, Bravo Company USA, Smith and Wesson, or Sons of Liberty Gun Works. Get a weapon light from Surefire, ModLite, Cloud Defensive (these 3 are expensive), Streamlight, or Inforce (bot are vetted, affordable alternatives), then buy a quick-adjust 2-point sling from Ferro Concepts, Blue Force Gear, Haley Strategic, Magpul, Viking Tactics, Little Creek Trading, or others (they all range from $25-80 or so). Seriously consider spending $120-250 on a new red dot sight made by Vortex, Holosun, Burris, Sig, Primary Arms, or get a used red dot from Aimpoint or Trijicon ($300-500). It's probably the single most drastic improvement you can make in performance value on a rifle. Buy 6-10 Magpul Pmags for practice and use. You should budget $600-1000 for the rifle, and roughly $500 total for all the essential accessories.

  • 12ga shotgun- Mossberg 500/590, Benelli Nova/Super Nova, and Browning BPS are excellent. Remington has fallen off in quality since 2007, but their 870 pump is still quality enough to recommend, they just have cosmic finish issues. Consider buying a Remington used. Smei-auto guns are also a good choice. Benelli and Beretta are the top of the heap, with FN and Browning as mid-tier, Stoeger, Mossberg, Winchester, and Remington rounding out the acceptable budget level. If possible, get a gun that comes with a short, 18.5-22" barrel AND a long, 26-30" barrel for maximum versality. $300-600 for a new pump, $600-1400 for a semi-auto. Get a gun that has a 3" chamber and removable chokes in at least the long barrel. Get the same sling that you have on your rifle, Velco cards from Vang Comp, Esstac, others, and consider a forend light from Surefire or Streamlight.

  • A semi-auto 22 LR rifle. Ruger 10/22, Marlin Model 60, Thompson/Center TCR22. Bolt-actions like Savage and CZ are great, but leave a little to be desired as far as rapid-fire capability. If you have a bolt 22, keep it and don't worry. If you're buying new, go semiauto. For a "perfect" 22, look at the Liberty Training Rifle, a concept put out by the Appleseed Project, for ideas on a solid rifle great for training, hunting, and target shooting. Put a red dot or scope on it if you want, but iron sights are fine for this gun and a great way to practice fundamentals.

  • A high power, bolt-action rifle with a variable-power, magnified optic. Savage, Ruger, Thompson/Center all make great guns for under $500 new. Tikka and Weatherby make maybe the best rifles for under $500 new. Tikka and Weatherby make maybe the best rifles under $1000. Vortex, Athlon, Burris, SWFA, and others make relatively inexpensive, but feature-rich optics. A good rule of thumb is whatever you spend on a rifle, spend that amount on a scope, or as close to it as possible. Rifles are so good nowadays that even cheap rifles will outshoot most people, but scopes are not that way- the more you buy upfront, the more you save in the long run, both in money, maintenance, and usage.

  • purgegf [she/her]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    The Whys and Wherefores

    Defensive use can be separated into self-defense (defense of your own bodily person, no matter the location or scenario), home and family defense (defense of a static place of residence/work and the people there), and community defense, one of the most important missions here. This is really the most specific category and is most heavily scrutinized by the legal system, for obvious reasons. You will find some of the most experienced shooters alive (and dead) focus on defensive shooting. There are really only a small number of situations where defensive shootings can ethically and legally happen, clear and present threats against your life and/or body at close distance being a reasonable summary of those situations. There are extremely few justifiable defensive shootings that happen at distances greater than 100m and there are even fewer that happen in situation where you are not reacting to a specific threat. Shotguns, intermediate size rifles, and pistols are what are most widely recommended for defensive use and versions are included in our 5 guns.

    Recreational use, for the purpose of my thesis, includes the most diverse set of disciplines, from the most casual backyard plinking, to extremely rigorous and intensive competitions like Olympic slow-fire pistol, to practical 2-gun action matches, and everything in between. Because of this diversity, these 5 guns will be the most deficient in this category, but, will allow any new shooter to, at minimum, start competitive shooting, in enough disciplines to begin to learn which ones you actually enjoy and pursue at a higher level. The fact is, many folks who like shooting skeet/trap/sporting clays with shotguns, often really have no interest in smallbore rifle competitions, and many of the folks who shoot longrange PRS matches may not enjoy shooting 3-gun. However, the 5 guns will let you do ANY of these, at least at the beginner level. Also, most folks who shoot, like to shoot for fun and like to shoot different stuff for fun. So while you may not like PRS, you still might want to hit the 600m KD range every once in a while and ring some steel with your bolt gun, just for fun, or to prepare for antelope season. That's where the 5 guns shine- versatility.

    Hunting is separated from recreational shooting since it shares an aspect serious and practical enough to be more co-related with defensive use than "fun" and that is food security. Animals are still the best single-origin source of protein widely available. A vegan or vegetarian diet of mixed beans actually surpasses the nutritional quality of meat, but you have to pay attention to what you eat and make sure the protein sources you ingest form a complete profile of amino acids and other nutrients in order to functionally replace meat in a diet. This is not hard in our agriculture-based society, but its also not as easy as many folks think. I highly admire folks who do it right- we need more folks like that. However, hunting provides a very practical way to secure relatively cheap protein that is free of the many ethical and health problems associated with capitalistic, individual food production (including all plant farming). Hunting with firearms also offers a view into the practical outdoor weapon skills that are not otherwise replicated except in a warzone. If you learn to shoot a rifle in hunting, you've learned at least some of what is important in an outdoor defensive scenario, or even combat (Shooting a bolt-action rifle from prone off a backpack at a target 400m away is something shared by hunters and military snipers). Again, disciplines vary wildly, as does the weapon selection. Shotguns and rifles are the main players though, and since we have at least one of each of those in our 5 guns, we're mostly covered.

    • purgegf [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I will try to include resources for more info an reinforcement where I can. Know that this is not exhaustive in scope, I am not a professional shooter or an expert in firearms engineering or usage. I shoot when I can, hunt a fair amount, and have done some junior-level competition shooting. Understand that almost everything you read on this post is a summary of what I have read and learned from actual experts and professionals and is not a synthesis of my own making. Most of the people and sources I will include are experts or professionals. Don't focus on the fact that many of these people are chuds, conservatives, cops, or whatever. They shoot for a living and they are experts. Shooting as a skill has no morality or ideology. The lesson is more important than the teacher. Focus on what skills they are trying to convey instead of the shirts they wear, or their political viewpoints. The dangerous dearth of functional firearms knowledge in leftist communities necessitates sacrificing absolute purity for the sake of destroying ignorance, building both skill and a foundation of competence among our communities.

      The Pistol: Location independent self-defense with a firearm pigeonholes you into pistols, concealed or not. It just isn't practical in some places, legal, to carry a rifle, shotgun, or rocket launcher on your person for the purpose of fending off meth zombies or other threats. Pistols also can be adequate home defense weapons, aw well as really fun guns that have a huge assortment of competitive disciplines available. In other words, they are versatile and fill 2/3 of our categories. So that's why you should get a pistol. What kind of pistol? Why do I recommend such a specific design like a striker-fired, polymer-framed, semi-automatic 9mm? Because currently, that is the most modern, most versatile, and most feature-rich pistol design available. It's also the most competitive as far as designs, features, and cost go from a manufacturer standpoint. Revolvers and older semi-auto designs DO have some advantages. Revolvers can be shot from inside pockets, they can chamber a much wider variety of cartridges. 1911s have essentially the best-designed trigger of any large-production handgun available, they also have excellent ergonomics. These advantages are not enough to outclass the many advantages that modern handguns have- higher ammo capacity, lighter weight, better reliability, simpler manual of arms, ubiquity, market support. A Glock 19 is very, very easy to learn how to manipulate, even if the trigger sucks compared to a Wilson Combat 1911. Its also 1/4 of the price. If you buy a Glock 19 or similar pistol and leave it bone stock, you can enter almost all the same competitions you could with a revolver or 1911, you have a lighter gun that is easier to carry and provides more capability at a similar price point. 9mm is practically universal, is one of the cheapest available cartridges to shoot, is essentially as effective in performance as other major handgun cartridges, and is smaller, allowing for higher capacity and lower recoil. Some resources FBI switches back to 9mm. Garand Thumb on pistols, Primary & Secondary talks on handguns. r/CCW

      The AR: So if I can use a pistol for all defensive use, why an AR15? Aren't those just redundancies at this point? Well yes, but actually no. The AR15 is effectively not concealable in any configuration that is useful as a long gun. So you can't take it with you like a pistol. But, for a home defense weapon and as a community defense weapon, it far outclasses pistols. So much so, that you'll notice all militaries use rifles and not pistols as their main weapon (duh). Pistols are only used when you run out of ammo with a rifle and know you're about to die being overrun, as a barely acceptable defense stopgap to use in order to get your rifle that isn't currently with you, or if you can't carry a rifle. If you expect to face rifle threats, or are able to bring a rifle legally and practically, bring a rifle. It's that simple. The terminal performance of rifles are excellent and at ranges that make them the most effective personal weapon ever designed in the history of humankind. We will not see rifles replaced in this role until phasers, blasters, gauss rifles, and rail guns become a real thing instead of science fiction. That's why you need one. Why the AR15? Its combination of modularity, straight line design, lightweight cartridge, ubiquity, market support, price, and easy/simple manual of arms make it the best choice in the US for an all-purpose rifle. Why no AK, SKS? Good quality AKs and SKSs are no longer cheaper than good quality ARs, they are less adaptable to different roles, and have more complicated manual of arms. In other parts of the world, AKs still make a lot of sense, but with current import laws and supply in the US, ARs are now king. A 16" barrel AR with a midlength gas system is the sweet spot of performance and versatility- you get excellent velocity, reliability, a good degree of compactness, and light weight. This rifle can be used to great effect in any of our 3 categories- all manner of competitions, small to medium-sized game hunting, and defensive use. Close range to medium range, as well. It is highly versatile, perhaps the most versatile weapon you can possibly own, with the possible exception of a shotgun. There are many companies that make good ARs, I recommend a small number of those in a failed attempt at brevity. There is no need to spend $4000 on a rifle setup, and you shouldn't spend under $500. The point of diminishing returns is very real and since the whole idea of 5 guns is optimizaation, focus on that middle-tier. That's where the bang for your buck is. A weapon light absolutely essential for defensive use, since you can't shoot what you can't see. Bad things usually happen at night, so a weapon-mounted light should be the first thing you buy for an AR. There are many companies, but few are highly regarded as good enough- the list I made is generally what is recommended by professional end users and instructors. Stick to it unless you get a specific recommendation otherwise from a trusted source, like an instructor. A quick-adjust 2-point sling is also essential. It's not only comfortable, but allows you to maintain control of your rifle while having one or both hands free. It makes it harder to drop, lose, or have your weapon taken away from you. Get one. One-point slings are faster, but retention is worse (getting whacked in your nether regions by a hot steel barrel is not fun, neither is hanging yourself on a fence with a rifle sling). Traditional 2-point shooting slings have both good retention and are comfy, but are slow to shoot with. A quick-adjust 2-point is the best of both worlds. 2-point retention, almost 1-point speed. Get one. A red dot sight is preferable for a general use rifle over holographic sights, or magnified optics.A red dot sight gives you speed, low light use, is very easy to learn to shoot, and is much cheaper at similar levels of quality and reliability. With some training, you can effectively use a red dot to 300m or so. Holographic sights are faster, better for low light, and close range. But they are expensive and their battery life sucks. Low Power Variable Optics (like 1-4x, 1-6x, etc) have begun to edge out red dots among professional end users in competitive, hunting, and military circles, but I recommend against them for one reason- cost vs quality. To get a good or excellent duty-grade red dot you will spend $200-500. To get a good or excellent duty-grade LPVO, you will spend, minimum, $1000. A red dot will still allow you to do most of what an LVPO will do, for less than half the cost. A $250 red dot and a $750 on ammo and range trips will beat a $1000 LVPO and no practice, every single time. Buy 6-10 Magpul Pmags to start off with. No, you don't need that many mags for fighting off zombie hordes (maybe)? You DO need that many mags for efficient practice so you spend more time shooting instead of reloading the same 2 mags over and over again. Plus, mags break and fail and having replacements is essential. Pmags are the best because they are equally reliable as good metal mags, and they also fail in obvious ways (diagnostic advantage). If a Pmag breaks, it breaks visibly (feed lips break off, or the body cracks). When metal mags break, it may not be visible, since metal can deform to failure, but not visibly. That's why Pmags are better. There is a reason why many professional end users set up their ARs in very similar ways to what I have explained- because it works. Check out the following: Travis Haley/Garand Thumb, Larry Vickers, Milspec Mojo, Vigilance Elite, Ronin tactics

      • purgegf [she/her]
        hexagon
        ·
        4 years ago

        The gauge: A 12ga shotgun is the most terminally effective personal weapon widely available. Sure, you can spend $8000 on a Barrett or other anti-material rifle and get better performance at all ranges, but why do that when you can spend $300 to get the same punch at 50 meters and in? Also, with proper ammo selection, you can hunt pretty much any animal in North America with a shotgun, from small squirrels, quails, and doves, to turkeys, ducks, geese, deer, and even moose! Not to mention the countless competition disciplines that utilize shotguns. It has no equal as far as versatility is concerned. It also pretty cheap to buy. Most good quality pumps are under $500 and will provide a lifetime of shooting. The trick with shotgunning is that to maximize the versatility, you kind of need 2 barrels. If you choose a short barrel for defensive use and large game hunting, you essentially eliminate utility for fast and flying game or classic clay pigeon competition. If you pick a long barrel, you eliminate the former. Never fear, most major manufacturers offer kits that include 2 barrels- a short 18-20" barrel for defense and certain types of hunting, and a long 26-28" barrel with removable chokes for the flying stuff. Switching barrels is easy and allows for maximized use. It's worth chasing down on of these "Field/Security" combos. There are important shotgun upgrades to consider, particularly a weapon light for defense, Velcro shotgun cards for ammo storage, a sling, and 2-3 choke tubes. Buy the sling first, preferably the same quick-adjust 2-point that your AR has, for ease of training, then get the shotgun cards. The cards are nice because they are modular and can be removed easily when you don't need them or for fast topping up of on-gun ammo. Finally, get choke tubes. Your gun will likely come with one or a set in the box. A variety of chokes gives a range of utility that complements ammo choice for what you're shooting. A "Full" choke makes for tight patterns for longer range shooting, while "Modified" and "Improved" are intermediate constrictions between full and "Open" or "Cylinder". Modified and Improved are generally considered to be the most versatile. Shotgun weapon lights are more difficult to remove for when you're not using it as your primary defensive weapon, so forego it if you have an AR with a light ready. If you buy a shotgun first, get the light. You'll notice I haven't said anything about pistol grip-only shotguns. Why? They suck. For almost everything- don't listen to me. see for yourself- InRangeTV, also, an in depth look at shotguns for defensive use- Primary and Secondary.

        The 22: The most popular firearms cartridge available worldwide. It's been around for close to 150 years, simply being one of the best things to happen to guns, ever. You should have one for a lot of reasons. Not really for defense- the 22 LR is not really effective in that role (usable, sire; effective, no). If you have these 5 guns, the 22 will not be your go-to weapon for defense. However, for target shooting, competition, training, and most small game hunting, there really isn't a better weapon out there. The 22 LR simply rocks. It's super light, super easy to shoot, super cheap to shoot, you can shoot it at ranges where many other guns aren't allowed, it's legal almost everywhere, and it's plain FUN. It's a great gun for kids and new shooters to learn on since it's not intimidating and provides all the essential aspects of firearms ownership and use. Get a semi-auto 22. It's better to train with, since you can learn positional shooting without breaking stance to work a manual repeating action and you have a speed advantage available when needed. Sure, some bolt-action 22s are more accurate, but again, unless you're trying to get involved in precision-oriented smallbore shooting, the advantages of a semi-auto 22 outweigh bolt guns. Put a sling on it, buy a few extra magazines, and hit the range! From there, as you refine how you want to use your 22, consider upgrading your iron sights (Tech Sights, NoDak Spud sights), getting a red dot, or a magnified optic. Each of these enhances the rifle's use potential in different areas. But aminly, shoot the thing! Rimfire Central is an excellent resource to learn about the ins and outs of all things 22 LR.

        High Power Rifle: the big boy. This is the apex of the main trunk of the firearms development tree. Full-size rifles are incredibly useful tools. Their capability at medium to long range eclipses every other personal weapon that isn't ordnance or crew-served. They are an ideal choice for hunting medium and large game, make for excellent competition weapons, and can be pressed into defensive roles. Other than the pump shotgun, this is the only other manually-operated action weapon I recommend owning amongst the 5 guns. The reason for this is, like the shotgun, a function of cost vs. quality. Yes, excellent, desirable full-power rifles exist in semi-auto. Yes, they have more utility than their bolt-action counterparts. They are also A LOT more expensive. Bolt-action rifles are robust, mature designs that provide strength, reliability, a high degree of precision, for low cost and low weight. To get a semi-auto gun that is accurate as a bolt gun, you're gonna have to spend a lot more money. You can get a bolt gun that will be effective to 1000 yards or more, is as reliable and lighter weight, and cost less than even your AR15. These rifles are not expensive to buy, but they are certainly the most expensive to shoot regularly of our 5 guns, their ammo being fairly pricey. However, their utility in hunting and recreational shooting cannot be ignored. They provide a capability that can't be filled by another platform, at least not without great expertise and sacrifice in other areas. Buy one of those I recommend, or a different one recommended by a trusted, knowledgeable source, like an instructor. Get a magnified optic for it- something with a variable zoom objective that has a low end below 5x and an upper zoom around 10x. 3-9x is a pretty classic range, 2-10x is great, as is 3-12x or 4-14x. Objective lens sizes of around 40mm are perhaps the most versatile. Scopes with BDC type reticles, rangefinding reticles, and illumination provide tons of utility and should be focused on rather than simple crosshair reticles without illumination. Consider a sling for a rifle, as well as maybe a bipod. While not as necessary for bolt-action guns, try to select one that uses detachable magazines. They provide more utility and capability over those that use internal magazines. r/longrange is an excellent place to ask a knowledgeable group of folks for advice on excellent starting setups.

        • purgegf [she/her]
          hexagon
          ·
          4 years ago

          Other notes: With regard to stock furniture on practical weapons, go synthetic. Synthetic stocks are very robust, strong, and often cheaper than wood stocks. They are not nearly as aesthetically pleasing, but they are more functional. Wood can swell and wrap in varying temperatures, humidity, and atmospheric pressure. Wood is also prone to cracking, breaking, dry rotting in some conditions, especially in cheap wooden stocks. Synthetic stocks do not have these same problems. Also, it just feels worse to scar up a pretty walnut stock hauling a gun through a briar patch, whereas for a plastic gun, it doesn't feel like abuse. If you do choose wood, consider laminated wood- it looks great, it's super strong and has all or most of the advantages of synthetic.

          These 5 guns I have attempted to persuade new shooters to focus on are really dependent on another factor. Training. If you do not train and practice with these weapons, they will not be as effective, or as versatile as I postulate they can be. I say that an AR with a red dot can do most of the things an AR with an LVPO can do. It's true, but only if you practice. Anyone can rapid fire strings into a IPSC silhouette at 25 yards with either a red dot or an LVPO. NOT everyone can do it at 100m with a red dot and an LVPO. But if you practice, you can. Optics do not increase the range of a weapon, they only increase your ability to see your target. LVPOs create that advantage of target identification with magnification. But for someone that can see their target, the optic matters less than their ability to hit the target. The same goes for shotguns. If you don't practice running a pump gun, you will create malfunctions. Or if you want to hunt birds, you will need to take it to the skeet range and learn to shoot flying targets. It is not hard, but it is a totally different mentality and approach than almost every other type of shooting. You must train and practice. Shooting, in all its forms, is a perishable skill. Hit the range.

          Other training videos:

          Importance of dry fire

          Bob Vogel on pistol grip

          Jerry Miculek on how to shoot a pistol

          What practice ammo?

          Pat McNamara on fundamentals playlist

          Practical Rifle Zeros

  • lib2
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    4 years ago

    Awesome info. I have saved this for use with my local group. Thank you for posting it here comrade :chavez-salute:

  • Juche_Gang [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Absolutely fucking garbage, only 5 guns, eh guys? Sure we can't get it up to 7 or 8? Ffs telling everybody, mostly poor people, to spend like at least 2k on guns is completely fucking braindead lifestyleism and liberal individualism. I know who wrote that dumbass comment on the SRA sub and wouldn't you know it, they're a fucking gun dealer trying to make a career out of gun posting on leddit. You're supposed to fucking share your shit with the less fortunate! You're supposed to organize collective defence efforts even if you're afraid of the feds, motherfuckers! They're going to treat you like outlaws no matter what so you might as well do whatever you were thinking about doing. As far as gun recs go, just get the cheapest shit that you can find or make, pass a hat around and get a crate of SKS rifles for 10 people if it brings the price down, only fetishists think you have to have oper8or gear and a loaded pistol next to your junk at all times even though that's usually more dangerous than any actual threats you face and a liability more often than not, you could revolt with bolt actions if you had to because it's not about the actual efficacy of individual arms carried by socialists, it's about the political power that is bestowed by being collectively armed, if you don't have a collective though then you're putting the cart before the horse and no amount of guns or prepping or whatever hobby can help you.

    • purgegf [she/her]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Can't find SKSs like you used to. But outfitting a community with hi-points is better than pointy sticks ngl. I don't know much about the original poster, but the post was an overview. I advocate for people getting themselves and their friends the bare minimum arms if they have nothing at this point.

  • yeehawman1312 [he/him,any]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    Good work on the post, I see a lot of people saying that handguard grips are useless but alot of people at my range are sporting them, what's your opinion? Is there some technique or are they just genuinely worthless? I don't wanna spend $40 on a piece of polymer I'll use once and never approach again.

    • purgegf [she/her]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Handguard grips, like finger groves? I like them on grips that do not have texturing on the front. When running drills in stressed or slick conditions I've found my grip to be less secure without the finger groves added on.

      • HKBFG [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Those non vertical replacement thing for vertical foregrips. They don't really do anything, but they don't really weigh anything either.

        Karl wound up putting one on his WWSD rifle.

  • AresUII [des/pair]
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    3 years ago
    • AR-57

    • AR-57

    • Rail mount flare gun ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

    • AR-57

    • AR-57

  • a_dog [any,he/him]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    why should leftists give a fuck about concealed carry

    like a polymer frame striker fired double stack 9mm pistol is a perfectly good gun don’t get me wrong, but what is the point of concealed carry? killing muggers? like just give them your wallet

  • a_dog [any,he/him]
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    edit-2
    4 years ago

    conventional wisdom is to get a .22LR rifle like a ruger 10/22, but I don’t understand the appeal. you’re spending more money on a basically worthless gun that isn’t fun to shoot, when you could buy an optic or ammunition with that money instead.

    unless you’re really into eating squirrel meat or really into rifles with like a 50yd effective range, in which case go nuts