Another comrade wrote this. It is good advice so I am posting it here.


I've made comments in the past asserting that the vast majority of all firearm activities can be done with just 5 different guns. I still stand by this. I believe that anyone, with a gun from each of these categories, can participate, in a meaningful way, in most gun-related things. Not necessarily at the highest level, and not every single discipline or subcategory. For example, having a Ruger 10/22 will gain you entry into a whole host of target shooting and competitive disciplines, but it won't be good enough or even legal to shoot in Olympic smallbore- you'll need something else. Your deer rifle with a Nikon Prostaff cope chambered in i.270 WIN might shoot 0.75 MOA at 200 yards and will allow you to compete, even well, in a PRS match, but you probably won't beat the dude launching handloaded 6.5 Creedmoor pills out of their GA Precision rifle with a Nightforce scope. It also won't be good enough to go hunt a coastal brown bear in Alaka- you'll need something else for that. This isn't to belittle inexpensive or general purpose gear. The opposite case is my thesis.

The 3 main categories of firearms-related activities generally are: defensive use, recreational use (collecting, competition, non-competitive target shooting), and hunting. I separate hunting from recreational use, even though almost all hunting is considered recreational in some way, since the gear is more practical and use-driven (food security is no laughing matter), as opposed to "just for fun" or novelty for its own sake. If there is a flaw in my viewpoint, perhaps that would be it- let's discuss in the comments. I think the only aspect of recreational use that isn't really addressed by owning 5 general purpose guns is collecting. Modern, common, and/or inexpensive firearms are not necessarily collectible (almost by definition) and their use is focused around practicality instead of design novelty, rarity, historical provenance, etc. But competitive shooting, and recreational shooting can be entered into in a meaningful way with 5 guns.

This post means to show that while special purpose gear outlcasses general purpose gear for those special purposes, for the average user, general purpose gear gets you so much performance and so much value, that you should focus on it over special gear, UNLESS A SPECIFIC and SPECIAL NEED arises from your experience that DICTATES A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIAL GEAR. Most people do not shoot enough to warrant buying super niche items. Start with these 5, learn to shoot, learn and develop your own needs and interests, then branch off into technical la-la-land and transcend into full gun nerd.

Bottom Line 5 guns:

  • Semi-auto, striker-fired, polymer-framed 9mm pistol. HK VP9, Walther PPQ, Glock 19, Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0, Sig P320, Ruger SR9, or CZ P-10C are great places to start. Good quality, decently priced. Look for police trade-ins, used versions. These pistols can be had for under $600 new, as little as $350 used. By a concealed carry holster (r/ccw can help with this- body fitment is personal and unique), 3-5 extra magazines, and hit the range. Consider a weapon light down the road.

  • 16" barrel, mid length gas system AR15 with an adjustable stock and preferably an M-Lock handguard. Buy the rifle from Midwest Industries, Aero Precision, Ruger, Bravo Company USA, Smith and Wesson, or Sons of Liberty Gun Works. Get a weapon light from Surefire, ModLite, Cloud Defensive (these 3 are expensive), Streamlight, or Inforce (bot are vetted, affordable alternatives), then buy a quick-adjust 2-point sling from Ferro Concepts, Blue Force Gear, Haley Strategic, Magpul, Viking Tactics, Little Creek Trading, or others (they all range from $25-80 or so). Seriously consider spending $120-250 on a new red dot sight made by Vortex, Holosun, Burris, Sig, Primary Arms, or get a used red dot from Aimpoint or Trijicon ($300-500). It's probably the single most drastic improvement you can make in performance value on a rifle. Buy 6-10 Magpul Pmags for practice and use. You should budget $600-1000 for the rifle, and roughly $500 total for all the essential accessories.

  • 12ga shotgun- Mossberg 500/590, Benelli Nova/Super Nova, and Browning BPS are excellent. Remington has fallen off in quality since 2007, but their 870 pump is still quality enough to recommend, they just have cosmic finish issues. Consider buying a Remington used. Smei-auto guns are also a good choice. Benelli and Beretta are the top of the heap, with FN and Browning as mid-tier, Stoeger, Mossberg, Winchester, and Remington rounding out the acceptable budget level. If possible, get a gun that comes with a short, 18.5-22" barrel AND a long, 26-30" barrel for maximum versality. $300-600 for a new pump, $600-1400 for a semi-auto. Get a gun that has a 3" chamber and removable chokes in at least the long barrel. Get the same sling that you have on your rifle, Velco cards from Vang Comp, Esstac, others, and consider a forend light from Surefire or Streamlight.

  • A semi-auto 22 LR rifle. Ruger 10/22, Marlin Model 60, Thompson/Center TCR22. Bolt-actions like Savage and CZ are great, but leave a little to be desired as far as rapid-fire capability. If you have a bolt 22, keep it and don't worry. If you're buying new, go semiauto. For a "perfect" 22, look at the Liberty Training Rifle, a concept put out by the Appleseed Project, for ideas on a solid rifle great for training, hunting, and target shooting. Put a red dot or scope on it if you want, but iron sights are fine for this gun and a great way to practice fundamentals.

  • A high power, bolt-action rifle with a variable-power, magnified optic. Savage, Ruger, Thompson/Center all make great guns for under $500 new. Tikka and Weatherby make maybe the best rifles for under $500 new. Tikka and Weatherby make maybe the best rifles under $1000. Vortex, Athlon, Burris, SWFA, and others make relatively inexpensive, but feature-rich optics. A good rule of thumb is whatever you spend on a rifle, spend that amount on a scope, or as close to it as possible. Rifles are so good nowadays that even cheap rifles will outshoot most people, but scopes are not that way- the more you buy upfront, the more you save in the long run, both in money, maintenance, and usage.

  • purgegf [she/her]
    hexagon
    ·
    4 years ago

    The gauge: A 12ga shotgun is the most terminally effective personal weapon widely available. Sure, you can spend $8000 on a Barrett or other anti-material rifle and get better performance at all ranges, but why do that when you can spend $300 to get the same punch at 50 meters and in? Also, with proper ammo selection, you can hunt pretty much any animal in North America with a shotgun, from small squirrels, quails, and doves, to turkeys, ducks, geese, deer, and even moose! Not to mention the countless competition disciplines that utilize shotguns. It has no equal as far as versatility is concerned. It also pretty cheap to buy. Most good quality pumps are under $500 and will provide a lifetime of shooting. The trick with shotgunning is that to maximize the versatility, you kind of need 2 barrels. If you choose a short barrel for defensive use and large game hunting, you essentially eliminate utility for fast and flying game or classic clay pigeon competition. If you pick a long barrel, you eliminate the former. Never fear, most major manufacturers offer kits that include 2 barrels- a short 18-20" barrel for defense and certain types of hunting, and a long 26-28" barrel with removable chokes for the flying stuff. Switching barrels is easy and allows for maximized use. It's worth chasing down on of these "Field/Security" combos. There are important shotgun upgrades to consider, particularly a weapon light for defense, Velcro shotgun cards for ammo storage, a sling, and 2-3 choke tubes. Buy the sling first, preferably the same quick-adjust 2-point that your AR has, for ease of training, then get the shotgun cards. The cards are nice because they are modular and can be removed easily when you don't need them or for fast topping up of on-gun ammo. Finally, get choke tubes. Your gun will likely come with one or a set in the box. A variety of chokes gives a range of utility that complements ammo choice for what you're shooting. A "Full" choke makes for tight patterns for longer range shooting, while "Modified" and "Improved" are intermediate constrictions between full and "Open" or "Cylinder". Modified and Improved are generally considered to be the most versatile. Shotgun weapon lights are more difficult to remove for when you're not using it as your primary defensive weapon, so forego it if you have an AR with a light ready. If you buy a shotgun first, get the light. You'll notice I haven't said anything about pistol grip-only shotguns. Why? They suck. For almost everything- don't listen to me. see for yourself- InRangeTV, also, an in depth look at shotguns for defensive use- Primary and Secondary.

    The 22: The most popular firearms cartridge available worldwide. It's been around for close to 150 years, simply being one of the best things to happen to guns, ever. You should have one for a lot of reasons. Not really for defense- the 22 LR is not really effective in that role (usable, sire; effective, no). If you have these 5 guns, the 22 will not be your go-to weapon for defense. However, for target shooting, competition, training, and most small game hunting, there really isn't a better weapon out there. The 22 LR simply rocks. It's super light, super easy to shoot, super cheap to shoot, you can shoot it at ranges where many other guns aren't allowed, it's legal almost everywhere, and it's plain FUN. It's a great gun for kids and new shooters to learn on since it's not intimidating and provides all the essential aspects of firearms ownership and use. Get a semi-auto 22. It's better to train with, since you can learn positional shooting without breaking stance to work a manual repeating action and you have a speed advantage available when needed. Sure, some bolt-action 22s are more accurate, but again, unless you're trying to get involved in precision-oriented smallbore shooting, the advantages of a semi-auto 22 outweigh bolt guns. Put a sling on it, buy a few extra magazines, and hit the range! From there, as you refine how you want to use your 22, consider upgrading your iron sights (Tech Sights, NoDak Spud sights), getting a red dot, or a magnified optic. Each of these enhances the rifle's use potential in different areas. But aminly, shoot the thing! Rimfire Central is an excellent resource to learn about the ins and outs of all things 22 LR.

    High Power Rifle: the big boy. This is the apex of the main trunk of the firearms development tree. Full-size rifles are incredibly useful tools. Their capability at medium to long range eclipses every other personal weapon that isn't ordnance or crew-served. They are an ideal choice for hunting medium and large game, make for excellent competition weapons, and can be pressed into defensive roles. Other than the pump shotgun, this is the only other manually-operated action weapon I recommend owning amongst the 5 guns. The reason for this is, like the shotgun, a function of cost vs. quality. Yes, excellent, desirable full-power rifles exist in semi-auto. Yes, they have more utility than their bolt-action counterparts. They are also A LOT more expensive. Bolt-action rifles are robust, mature designs that provide strength, reliability, a high degree of precision, for low cost and low weight. To get a semi-auto gun that is accurate as a bolt gun, you're gonna have to spend a lot more money. You can get a bolt gun that will be effective to 1000 yards or more, is as reliable and lighter weight, and cost less than even your AR15. These rifles are not expensive to buy, but they are certainly the most expensive to shoot regularly of our 5 guns, their ammo being fairly pricey. However, their utility in hunting and recreational shooting cannot be ignored. They provide a capability that can't be filled by another platform, at least not without great expertise and sacrifice in other areas. Buy one of those I recommend, or a different one recommended by a trusted, knowledgeable source, like an instructor. Get a magnified optic for it- something with a variable zoom objective that has a low end below 5x and an upper zoom around 10x. 3-9x is a pretty classic range, 2-10x is great, as is 3-12x or 4-14x. Objective lens sizes of around 40mm are perhaps the most versatile. Scopes with BDC type reticles, rangefinding reticles, and illumination provide tons of utility and should be focused on rather than simple crosshair reticles without illumination. Consider a sling for a rifle, as well as maybe a bipod. While not as necessary for bolt-action guns, try to select one that uses detachable magazines. They provide more utility and capability over those that use internal magazines. r/longrange is an excellent place to ask a knowledgeable group of folks for advice on excellent starting setups.

    • purgegf [she/her]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Other notes: With regard to stock furniture on practical weapons, go synthetic. Synthetic stocks are very robust, strong, and often cheaper than wood stocks. They are not nearly as aesthetically pleasing, but they are more functional. Wood can swell and wrap in varying temperatures, humidity, and atmospheric pressure. Wood is also prone to cracking, breaking, dry rotting in some conditions, especially in cheap wooden stocks. Synthetic stocks do not have these same problems. Also, it just feels worse to scar up a pretty walnut stock hauling a gun through a briar patch, whereas for a plastic gun, it doesn't feel like abuse. If you do choose wood, consider laminated wood- it looks great, it's super strong and has all or most of the advantages of synthetic.

      These 5 guns I have attempted to persuade new shooters to focus on are really dependent on another factor. Training. If you do not train and practice with these weapons, they will not be as effective, or as versatile as I postulate they can be. I say that an AR with a red dot can do most of the things an AR with an LVPO can do. It's true, but only if you practice. Anyone can rapid fire strings into a IPSC silhouette at 25 yards with either a red dot or an LVPO. NOT everyone can do it at 100m with a red dot and an LVPO. But if you practice, you can. Optics do not increase the range of a weapon, they only increase your ability to see your target. LVPOs create that advantage of target identification with magnification. But for someone that can see their target, the optic matters less than their ability to hit the target. The same goes for shotguns. If you don't practice running a pump gun, you will create malfunctions. Or if you want to hunt birds, you will need to take it to the skeet range and learn to shoot flying targets. It is not hard, but it is a totally different mentality and approach than almost every other type of shooting. You must train and practice. Shooting, in all its forms, is a perishable skill. Hit the range.

      Other training videos:

      Importance of dry fire

      Bob Vogel on pistol grip

      Jerry Miculek on how to shoot a pistol

      What practice ammo?

      Pat McNamara on fundamentals playlist

      Practical Rifle Zeros