• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    Tl;Dr: Sharing Nude scenes out-of-context are considered a form of involuntary pornography in Denmark (portraying artistic nudity as pornography) and this man was arrested for compiling and sharing nude scenes of Danish actors from Danish films and sharing them while inside Denmark...

    This has nothing to do with film studio profits or piracy, this is a man who ran afowl of his home country's laws about pornography.

    And to be fair, a woman appearing nude in a film doesn't mean that sexualizing the shit out of her publicly isn't scummy fucked up behavior. I think I understand the law here.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
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      13 days ago

      Honestly I feel a bit uncomfortable seeing nudity in films. I think "he's this person who's half my age, so agreed to take her clothes off and be filmed because her job required it".

    • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
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      12 days ago

      Good argument but if the guy uploading it would be in another country this law couldn't be enforced. Basically it's an unenforceable standard. To insist on enforcing it could lead to draconian measures.

      The article mentions upload filters but that then again create a large burden. This burden requires more work or more money. Which leads to a centralization or monopolization of the internet. Which would be in the interest of social media corporation who can shoulder the burden.

      In the future the ethical issues of porn could be solved by investing in and creating a near perfect AI porn model that can serve all our removed needs WITHOUT requiring humans to take their clothes off. Basically ethically sourced synthetic "vegan" porn that is created for your on demand in your own home. And then you can ban all the real porn because the demand for it will plummet. Of course there will still be people who get off on the abuse instead of on the fantasy.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
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      13 days ago

      Involuntary pornography, my guy. How are you not disgusted at the guy who was arrested?

      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 days ago

        I feel like that's a stretch, and there's some important things to consider here.

        People are weird, and can fetishize all sorts of shit. There's no reasonable way to control say, someone jerking off to pictures of hand models. Or to stop someone shlicking it to your shlubby beer gut at the beach photos you put up on social media if that's their thing (and I know a woman who's thing was "straight bears" for a long time).

        But no one has any agency or ability to prevent that. No one has any agency to prevent any random person passing them on the street and then later using that memory plus imagination as cranking fuel.

        For the sake of every individual's personal sanity, I think it's important that each and every one of us understand and accept that. Existing in the world is naturally giving up a certain amount of control. This is part of it, as disgusting as it is.

        This is even more the case when you put content out there. Whether through acting in film or other media, creating artwork, posting pictures, etc. Creating content in the current age of the internet is inherently ceding ownership and control over it. The moment it hits the public space, you cannot control what is done with it, and the sooner people can learn to accept that, the better off I think we all will be.


        I understand that feeling of violation to learn that someone has used you purely as an object for arousal.

        abuse

        Multiple times an ex manually stimulated me to physical arousal and used me as a human dildo. At the time I convinced myself I was into it, because I was a guy. I wasn't, and while my trauma is relatively minor, it exists.


        That said, there is nuance. This content was not edited, it was merely taken out of the original context. Are we going to prevent news from doing this to prevent using content in ways unintended and unanticipated by the original creators?

        "I'll know misuse when I see it" is not a sustainable method for evaluating misuse at scale.

        "If it's clearly being used for erotic purposes" likewise doesn't work, as defining that line isn't straightforward. Do we ban reposts of bikini shots?

        This isn't something that was created for private use that was leaked. It was content made for public consption. Being disgusted with how the public chooses to consume it is your right, but there's no way to control that.

        Again, I entirely sympathize with the women experiencing this. Being used in this manner is dehumanizing.

        But there's no stopping it. Best to accept as best you can and ignore it.