• masquenox@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Eco-fascists unite, huh?

    How long do any of you idiots upvoting this think it'll be until these (so-called) "rangers" start selling rhino horn themselves? That is... if they haven't already and this is really just them clearing out the competition?

    • Henle [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Why would they do that I presume they like the rhinos because they are killing people on their behalf

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        1 year ago

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      • muddi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Corruption? Indian rangers are basically police. They're uniformed and armed, and apparently have orders to kill. ACAB

        I was in a car once when the driver accidentally went into a restricted forest area, and he just gave the guards a bribe to let us out without punishment. They're presumably better than the actual police generally, but in the tribal areas they can be just as bad.

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          1 year ago

          taking a bribe because someone kinda broke the law without causing harm is not the same as killing the animals you are supposed to protect, like whole orders of magnitude different.

          • muddi [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Yeah I'm not saying those two are the same things. However I read some articles where tribal people and villagers claimed to be shot on sight for wandering into parks, then tortured for protesting this.

            My point was just that the sentiment for forest rangers in the US or elsewhere doesn't necessarily apply to India. The forest department might be more like the Bureau of Indian Affairs in some cases

            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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              1 year ago

              However I read some articles where tribal people and villagers claimed to be shot on sight for wandering into parks, then tortured for protesting this.

              that's interesting. much more compelling than the other things.

        • Henle [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          They do like oil corporations yes.

          That's like what the US is known for. Liking them so much they invade countries

      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Think about the kind of person that would sign up to murder other people.

        You think they wouldn’t shoot an innocent person for fun?

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    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Protecting the environment by shooting back at people actively destroying it

      is-this "Is this eco-fascism?"

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      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        State power murdering overwhelmingly poor people for a crime that should be a fine at most.

        Yes, that is fascism.

        Can you give one single reason why this can't be handled with jail at most? They can't hunt from inside a jail.

        They HAVE to die?

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      • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Killing poor people to take heat away from rich people is fascism. The heat is coming from people with eco interests. This is eco fascism.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah this is a fucking stupid take. I bet those native americans are just trying to dump oil on the land themselves.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah we have this in South Africa and now some of the "rangers" as you say, are campaigning to sell rhino horn themselves to flood and devalue the market. They say it's all obtained ethically and all, or captured from the poachers, but I have my doubts.

          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            This is state power being used to murder undesirables.

            That’s fascism. Terrorism would be non state actors

            • Ardipithecus [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Didn't know that, thanks for the info and thanks to the person who posted that other article.

              My confusion with the OCommenter was due to that.

            • masquenox@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              That's not true... the term "terrorism" was originally used to describe the actions of states - it's only due to the media that, for rather obvious reasons, states have been "absolved" from the vastly greater levels of terrorism they commit in contrast to the comparatively minor levels committed by non-state actors.

              So yes, this is terrorism. I't s not "eco-terrorism" (which is mostly a non-issue invented by the media) - it's bog-standard, common-or-garden-variety fascist terrorism. The kind the media goes out of it's way to never call terrorism.