I had basically given up on electoralism for years at this point.
I do not believe the western working class by and large has any revolutionary potential, basically JDPON-pilled.

But the genocide in Palestine really made me more invested in this whole dog and pony show again.
I guess I figured like…sure bourgeoise democracy will not bring about socialism, but at the very least you can still get some concessions potentially out of it.
Perhaps I was naive, but like…I wanted to hope there was some way the Democrats could be convinced to stop it by November, even if it was electoralist bullshit I feel like the Palestinians deserved (and still deserve) even a futile attempt.

But seeing the shit with the DSA, especially the SMC and Groundwork caucuses, seeing unions who oppose the genocide endorse Biden/Harris right out the gate, seeing the Uncommitted movement do the same while the Harris campaign has done nothing but spit in their face….

I am filled with a helpless rage. Americans are the most pathetic contemptible creatures on this earth.

I’M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR SOCIALISM! ALL I’M ASKING FOR IS THE DEMOCRATS TO COME AROUND ON AN ISSUE 77% OF DEMOCRATS AND 61% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE!
BUT EVEN THAT IS TOO MUCH, TOO HARD FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGHT FOR EVEN WHEN IT IS ALLEDGELY THEIR WHOLE REASON FOR EXISTING!!

I knew Americans were useless and selfish, and short-sighted and stupid…but I didn’t think they were to this extent.
That was my mistake I guess.

  • drone509@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    All due respect, and with the understanding that I'm not a brilliant political strategist. Can you explain how we get from point A (threaten to withhold votes) to point B (a positive outcome in Palestine)?

    • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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      2 months ago

      If Harris and the democrats fear they will lose crucial swing states and potentially the election because of what is happening in Palestine then they might be convinced to change course.

      • drone509@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        That seems pretty naive, given how they've been completely unwilling to compromise so far, and seem very confident they won't have to.

        • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          That seems pretty naive

          Says the dipshit talking

          they've been completely unwilling to compromise so far, and seem very confident they won't have to

          So let's support them anyway? Okay, god you deserve to be thrown full force into the deepest pit. You deserve, at best, an oubliette so deep and so dark you forget what the sun even is

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          7 days ago

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      7 days ago

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    • Sulvor [he/him, undecided]
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      2 months ago

      Unfortunately, in America we can't within the current system. Reform or revolution? (Revolution)

      • drone509@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        If there was a third party, I honestly think there'd be a chance to make things better. Either to force reform by pulling votes from the bigger party, or being a vanguard for revolution. Just not the fucking green party, jesus. They didn't win a single county in 2016, and I fucking hate them.

        • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          and I fucking hate them

          You should reexamine why you're directing statements like "I fucking hate them" to the green party instead of the party currently in charge of enabling the genocide in Gaza

        • egg1918 [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          So you hate the greens more than the genocidal Democrats?