On big subs, like worldnews.
Like, a lot of people quoting one CDC report on IFR that presented COVID as less dangerous, without actually knowing the difference between CFR and IFR. Despite the fact that the numbers (in the report) are still very fucking high.
I hear more and more people saying that countries overreport deaths, based on some anecdotal evidence (one time a bike crash was reported as a COVID death), which is complete bullshit, of course, easily checked by looking at excess deaths.
Absolutely braindead comparisons to seasonal flu, as if seasonal flu isn't
- less dangerous
- a huge fucking problem and a cause of millions of deaths
Chapos, COVID is the most deadly airborne virus pandemic since spanish flu, and the most deadly virus since HIV/AIDS.
Oh yeah, I say "since HIV/AIDS", but HIV/AIDS pandemic is still happening. Literally millions of people die. We haven't cured it. Who said that we'll cure this one?
Also, you cant really compare coronavirus to HIV, but if we look at annual deaths, then HIV was at its peak at ~1.9 million deaths (in 2005, I think). Compare that to COVID. This is just the first 7-8 months of the pandemic and we already have more than a million deaths! That is, despite the fact that:
- Deaths are seriously underreported (I'm talking 30-50% just in the US. Imagine fucking Brasil. Russia? In Russia its way worse).
- Coronoviruses are seasonal and they peak at winter
- The whole world went into lockdown for months.
Holy shit, I fucking can't.
I agree its "overblown" by libs to own Trump, but it's IFR is at least 0.6%.
WHO says 0.5-1% infection fatality rate and cites a study from Stockholm that had a result of 0.58% for all ages. The study accounted for unreported cases, but not for unreported deaths. They themselves say that the result is conservative.
Sweden, mind you, has some of the best healthcare and healthiest people in the world.
Other New York study (that's cited on worldmeters) accounted for excess deaths and unreported infections had a result of 1.4% IFR.
Case fatality rate of the world is still 2-6%. I don't think it's THAT unnoticeable.
Yeah, 0.6 is what they estimate now. I suspect it might be lower because in March/April, we didn't test many kids/young adults. It's a moot point though. Either way, it's deadlier than the flu, but not deadly enough that you would see bodies piling up on every street if we just let it spread.
You are saying that: its not as deadly as the fucking bubonic plague.
Yeah, we know.
Also, there were bodies "piling up" during peak in March. In Italy and New York afaik
No, there weren't. We built massive surge capacity in several cities that went completely unused.
You suspect the numbers will be lower, but I suspect in the end the numbers will be higher. Why? Because current studies account for unreported infections, but don't account for unreported deaths.