According to the standard account, capitalism—whatever your criticisms of it—is synonymous with freedom. Other systems, we are told, necessitate central plan...
You're correct, but this video isn't made for people like you who are already some form of Marxist. (I'm guessing here) It's made to be a pipeline to further left ideas. Of course actual Marxist :RIchard-D-Wolff: will have a much better and way more correct take than some law professor on a Gravel institute video, but it doesn't mean the video is entirely useless. It's trying to push left leaning ideas out there, and maybe get some apolitical folks or libs to think a bit more. Yes it's usefulness is very limited, but it's better that it exists and makes videos than nothing being out there.
There's something to be said about driving people down a path that capitalist propaganda isn't as full of thought terminating cliches and using the contradictions there to radicalize. I still think it's important to at least acknowledge that monopoly formation is a natural consequence of capitalism though.
Yeah that's the usefulness of the video and the Gravel institute in general. That's why it's good for them to make these types of videos rather than there being nothing out there. Would it be a lot cooler if the videos were Marxism 101? Maybe, but I don't think it would have anywhere near the same outreach due to all the propaganda our there. That's why I said it's more of a pipeline to get left leaning ideas out there
I mean, scroll down and look at the comments just in chapo.chat. Did no one upbearing these posts not pick up on any of these criticisms? Do we need to have a struggle session about how this "anti-corporate" agitation is pro-capitalist fakery?
I agree with this take. You can’t open up with the full class consciousness at once. The best you can do at first is stuff like this and raising questions in a libs mind, like “Why DOES insulin have to cost so much?” And “Why DO so few corporations control so much?”. Looking at their future guests they have Zizek scheduled. I would not be surprised if the heat comes slowly and they progressively get more and more leftist. I like this format, because it’s easily digestible and raises valid points without saying anything that would instantly turn someone’s brain off because it sounds like communism. Ease them in, ya know?
But look at how many people are lapping it up as wholesome anti-capitalism. The YT comments, on twitter. The miseducation here isn't benign, imo. This is teaching things that we will have to re-educate people on. The worst part is, it didn't have to be this way all. I am mostly scratching my head, because I can't find anyone making any kind of critique. I mean, I don't wanna drag the Gravel Teens, or Teachout. And maybe no one else does, either. I surely can't have been the only person to watch and get like more and more irritated because every take was either wrong or bad, and then the plane never landed. It just ended on "welp, nothing to be done about it!"
I don't think you need a lib->marxist pipeline. The marxism is more coherent than liberalism, just start with that.
You're correct, but this video isn't made for people like you who are already some form of Marxist. (I'm guessing here) It's made to be a pipeline to further left ideas. Of course actual Marxist :RIchard-D-Wolff: will have a much better and way more correct take than some law professor on a Gravel institute video, but it doesn't mean the video is entirely useless. It's trying to push left leaning ideas out there, and maybe get some apolitical folks or libs to think a bit more. Yes it's usefulness is very limited, but it's better that it exists and makes videos than nothing being out there.
There's something to be said about driving people down a path that capitalist propaganda isn't as full of thought terminating cliches and using the contradictions there to radicalize. I still think it's important to at least acknowledge that monopoly formation is a natural consequence of capitalism though.
Yeah that's the usefulness of the video and the Gravel institute in general. That's why it's good for them to make these types of videos rather than there being nothing out there. Would it be a lot cooler if the videos were Marxism 101? Maybe, but I don't think it would have anywhere near the same outreach due to all the propaganda our there. That's why I said it's more of a pipeline to get left leaning ideas out there
I mean, scroll down and look at the comments just in chapo.chat. Did no one upbearing these posts not pick up on any of these criticisms? Do we need to have a struggle session about how this "anti-corporate" agitation is pro-capitalist fakery?
I agree with this take. You can’t open up with the full class consciousness at once. The best you can do at first is stuff like this and raising questions in a libs mind, like “Why DOES insulin have to cost so much?” And “Why DO so few corporations control so much?”. Looking at their future guests they have Zizek scheduled. I would not be surprised if the heat comes slowly and they progressively get more and more leftist. I like this format, because it’s easily digestible and raises valid points without saying anything that would instantly turn someone’s brain off because it sounds like communism. Ease them in, ya know?
But look at how many people are lapping it up as wholesome anti-capitalism. The YT comments, on twitter. The miseducation here isn't benign, imo. This is teaching things that we will have to re-educate people on. The worst part is, it didn't have to be this way all. I am mostly scratching my head, because I can't find anyone making any kind of critique. I mean, I don't wanna drag the Gravel Teens, or Teachout. And maybe no one else does, either. I surely can't have been the only person to watch and get like more and more irritated because every take was either wrong or bad, and then the plane never landed. It just ended on "welp, nothing to be done about it!"
I don't think you need a lib->marxist pipeline. The marxism is more coherent than liberalism, just start with that.