I don't understand why there are so many people who consider themselves "Marxist feminists", but at the same time are distracted by astrology.

The origin of feminism is working class, and as a working class movement, it is materialist. I don't know if they at least know what dialectical materialism is, since they don't see such an abysmal contradiction between astrology (pseudoscience) and feminism (materialism).

They remind me of the liberal “feminist” Gloria Steinem.

And the same with some anarchists.

What do you think about it?

  • josie@vegantheoryclub.org
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    2 hours ago

    Also, you are mistakenly believing that I attacked women in the first instance, I mean, what?

    You are the one who was making it about feminism in your original post despite it having nothing to do with your point.

    It’s funny that you say 99.9% of people, and then immediately after that you refer you to your friends. Just because your friends take it as a game, doesn’t mean that there are people who don’t take it completely seriously, and go around judging other people solely by the position of certain planets and stars, not by their ideas constructed based on their material conditions.

    A small group of people probably take it seriously but then you get fanatics in literally every hobby.

    I did in fact address that point? And at least I gave a sample group for my argument, unlike you who is just saying it's "taken worringly seriously by supposedly materialist people" without elaborating. Who are these materialists who are supposedly taking astrology seriously? Because from what I am seeing in this thread, absolutely nobody is taking astrology seriously, they are just defending people's right to enjoy it as a hobby. Again, I have hung out in astrology spaces. The people who actually take it seriously are a very small minority of astrology fans, just like how a small minority of sports or gaming fans take it way too seriously.

    • qocu [he/him]
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      2 hours ago

      You are the one who was making it about feminism in your original post despite it having nothing to do with your point.

      And again. I don't understand why it is difficult to think of “people who consider themselves Marxist feminists” and not just “women”. That being the case, it will misunderstand everything and become an attack on the person, not their ideas.

      • josie@vegantheoryclub.org
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        2 hours ago

        astrology is not just a feminist thing, so why even bring up feminism in the first place?

        This conversation is going around in circles. I have no interest in continuing and will not be responding further. Goodbye.

        • qocu [he/him]
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          2 hours ago

          Astrology is not just a feminist thing. Feminism is not just a women's thing. I mentioned it primarily because it is the way in which many people who are themselves focused on astrology (and the magical thinking involved) describe themselves.

          Goodbye. :)