Spanish virologists have found traces of the novel coronavirus in a sample of Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the COVID-19 disease was identified in China, the University of Barcelona said on Friday.
Also it's infinitely more likely that this arose in the US than in Spain, IMO. There were multiple mass-pneumonias in 2019, with hundreds of kids calling in sick at the same time. Some of them are still up on youtube in local news stories, others have been taken down.
Obviously pneumonia happens, but hundreds sick from the same school at the same time is very indicative of an extremely high level of contagion, which wasn't seen until, well, this.
Not saying food caused this, but the US's notoriously bad food quality standards and almost complete lack of accountability seems to a cause of a lot of different outbreaks, big or small.
I also do remember that rather mysterious pneumonia outbreak sometime back and never thought about till you mentioned that. I suppose time will just have to tell, but and I wont be shocked if it is from America since that also just makes sense.
Naw it for sure originated somewhere in South or Southeast Asia. Maybe the Middle East. They have only found SARS like coronaviruses in bat populations there, not in populations in Europe proper or the Americas. Totally possible it’s been spreading around in low levels in the population for a year or two though. It will be interesting to see where the locate the original bat reservoir, EcoHealth Alliance does good work here.
Also it's infinitely more likely that this arose in the US than in Spain, IMO. There were multiple mass-pneumonias in 2019, with hundreds of kids calling in sick at the same time. Some of them are still up on youtube in local news stories, others have been taken down.
Obviously pneumonia happens, but hundreds sick from the same school at the same time is very indicative of an extremely high level of contagion, which wasn't seen until, well, this.
Not saying food caused this, but the US's notoriously bad food quality standards and almost complete lack of accountability seems to a cause of a lot of different outbreaks, big or small.
I also do remember that rather mysterious pneumonia outbreak sometime back and never thought about till you mentioned that. I suppose time will just have to tell, but and I wont be shocked if it is from America since that also just makes sense.
Naw it for sure originated somewhere in South or Southeast Asia. Maybe the Middle East. They have only found SARS like coronaviruses in bat populations there, not in populations in Europe proper or the Americas. Totally possible it’s been spreading around in low levels in the population for a year or two though. It will be interesting to see where the locate the original bat reservoir, EcoHealth Alliance does good work here.
Yeah, the genetic lineage work is pretty slam dunk on that.