I've had libs/chuds/suburbanites very confidently tell me that everyone who lives in cities would die in an apocalypse because the rural farms wouldn't, like, give them food, etc. Very obviously false if you've ever worked in rural health or rural anything honestly. If I get the chance again I'll ask why they think cities are where they are. I usually disengage or deflect right away though because it's basically a convo about zombie movies.