Explain the bookclub: We are reading Volumes 1, 2, and 3 in one year and discussing it in weekly threads. (Volume IV, often published under the title Theories of Surplus Value, will not be included in this particular reading club, but comrades are encouraged to do other solo and collaborative reading.) This bookclub will repeat yearly.

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Week 40, Sept 30-Oct 6 – Chapter 24 and Chapter 25 of Volume III

Chapter 24 is called 'Externalisation of the Relations of Capital in the Form of Interest-Bearing Capital'

Chapter 25 is called 'Credit and Fictitious Capital'


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/index.htm


Discuss the week's reading in the comments.

  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 hours ago

    Reading's going fine, but I'm just going to talk about a tangential subject on interest, that I should dealt with understanding, chapters ago

    spoiler

    I'm just trying sense of the principal sum, or 100%, when financial capitalists initially loan to industrial ones

    When the loan is used by the industrial capitalist to buy his constant capital, and used to help produce commodities, along with the labor he bought of his own personal fund,

    say the constant capital (holder of old variable labor) and labor (surplus value + variable capital) = 140% of the original

    Now, when bankers returns to ask for their principle plus interest, let's say 5%,

    140% = commodity value =

    100% constant capital, the part needed to be paid to the lender

    20% variable capital

    15% surplus, due to 5% interest

    5% interest, to be paid to the lender

    And although their principal and interest is to be paid, the industrial capitalist still owns capital of 120, that can be exchanged for cash and reinvested again, and actually has an increase in net capital by 15?

    Doesn't the constant capital depreciate as it transfers its value to the commodities? Wouldn't he just be exchanging 120 for 15?

    Am I understanding this right, just to clarify? Or am I wrong? I'm confused...

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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      12 minutes ago

      Unclear pronoun antecedent here, who are you saying is exchanging 120 for 15? The industrial capitalist or the financier?