• Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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    2 months ago

    As someone who’s grown up in Latin America, what I don’t understand is why Spain gets a pass, every single fucking time in the eyes of the West and pretty much world over?

    They don’t even have the excuse of being precious little Italy who didn’t have the vestiges of a massive fucking empire dating all the way to the mid 20th century.

    Spain is the most fash country in the West, by far.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      Spain may be the western country that’s done the most historic evil but there is no way that modern day Spain is worse than modern day France, US, or UK.

      • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        Spain may be the western country that’s done the most historic evil

        It would be UK, actually, with US second. France, Spain and Germany are tied for the third place.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 months ago

          Oh to be clear I wasn’t saying definitively that Spain was the worst, just that it could be possible. Modern day Spain isn’t even in the competition

    • BashfulBob [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      why Spain gets a pass, every single fucking time in the eyes of the West

      The Spanish Empire was functionally kaput at the end of the 19th century. The US/UK take more of the blame because they gobbled up the territories that Spain used to hold. It's the same reason why the US takes more flack for our involvement in Vietnam than the French. Just a game of hot potato. You get the blame for being the last guy to hold the bag.

      I don't think anyone is suggesting the Conquistadors are somehow absolved of blame. But Spain, as an institution, hasn't been a global player in nearly a century.

      They don’t even have the excuse of being precious little Italy

      That's exactly the excuse they have, practically speaking. And Italy gets tons of shit for being a hotbed of vile Catholicism.

    • camaron30 [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Spain gets a what? What are you even talking about??

      That "pass" (if it even exists) is because current Spain is nowhere near as relevant as France, US or the UK in the world stage. Also lmao at saying Spain is more fascists than any of them.