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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    11 months ago

    That's not nearly enough for an iceberg chart. There's way, way, way, way more than that. You've got to at least get in to the 19th century massacres committed against European workers during the process of forcing them in to the factories and the enormous toll of death and misery that came with that.

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Even with just American crimes of capitalism you could fill out a much larger iceberg chart, let alone global capitalism's atrocities

  • andresil@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    As an Irishman I have to say that I think the famine should be under the surface. So few people are taught about the atrocities committed and how many died because of it, and just like to laugh at me if I bring it up something like "haha they should have eaten something else". Also, the troubles etc. are also at least partially due to capitalism. Fuck the imperial fucking British removed

    • GerryMandering@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Also from Ireland. I've surprised even well read Irish people by suggesting capitalism is to blame for the various famines of the 19th century in ireland including the great famine.

      Usually get a 'hmmm I've never thought of that' despite the fact that some of these people have actually read about the causes of the famine, criticised the British insistence on 'laissez faire', but still didn't somehow put two and two together and blame capitalism itself.

      • andresil@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        Yep, generally meet the same conversation tbh

        But I think that it's partially cause Irish people don't really bother thinking too much about these things or the past, even when reading about it. It's part of a simplicity to some of us that I like, most just want to get on with it, if you know what I mean. Also, with a name like GerryMandering I have to say: Tiocfaidh ár lá mo chara!

  • fckreddit@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Also, this covers only the Northern Hemisphere for the most part. I wonder what atrocities USA committed in South America.

    • Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 months ago

      In that case, there's no need to focus on American atrocities: Norway's poisoned the water of Brazilian natives to the point of cancer and fetal deformities, and killed local wildlife in the name of green energy — and our imperial escapades are ongoing to this very day, as most Norwegians continue to live in blissful ignorance, still believing that we're a harmless country that just got lucky with the cod and petrol in our backyards.

      • fckreddit@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        This is precisely what I am talking about.Even now, most countries are suffering from consequences of West's abuse of power. All of it, so that West can maintain the status quo of their power. I find it so ironic, that Western politicians tout the greatness of their democracies, as if their entire countries are not built and maintained on top of suffering of majority of the world population. This was true during colonial times. This is true now.

        Even now, for example, Sam Altman is exploiting populations of poorer African and South Asian countries for his gain. Fuck Western Imperialistic Foreign policies and fuck Western corporations.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Blowback legit made me go insane learning about what we did in Korea

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Someone can correct me, but I'm pretty sure most targets were civilian and it also provided a blueprint for future interventions