Workers, hearken, they are going to war
And they yell: "For nation and race!"
This war is the rulers of the world's
Against the working classes!
Hanns Eisler in "Der Heimliche Aufmarsch"
(works for both sides ngl)
Remember when the libs here were saying only Russia does this and acting like it was beyond the pale?
I do because it was yesterday.
Huh that's gotta be the highest upvoted article critical of Ukraine regime i seen here.
Either libs are already in the inevitable process of transforming from "kill ruZZian orcs" to "we never supported that war" or we are just out of peak hours for lib brigades.
Every man who gets away stays alive to rebuild later. Every man who gets caught extends the war and dies for nothing.
Itt liberals reveal that their is no depth of casual fascist bloodthirst they won't plumb. Pretending to care about Ukranians while they cheer for them getting rounded up and used as meatshields in a lost war.
The western supremacists are willing to sacrifice every Ukranian civilian, to push NATO east.
I think that most is against poor Russians dying in the same way, in the same lost war
Exactly, the only reasonable and humane position is to end the bloodshed with diplomacy immediately
lol no they aren't; they spent the last year calling Russians orcs and celebrating their deaths; don't give libs the benefit of the doubt; they're warping into modern day Nazis.
There's still a nightlife in Kyiv? The war there is worlds apart from what's happening in Gaza. Gaza hasn't had electricity or water for a year now.
Yes but Blinken said Russia is committing genocide so la la la la la I cant hear you!!!
Slava ukrainazis!!!!
@poVoq@slrpnk.net how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?
You're finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?
do you admit ukrainian shelling of the breakaway republics was mass murder? or do they not count bc they speak the wrong language?
I'm talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.
ITT people that claim they hate trump have the same opinion on one of the biggest political issues for the same reason, they love Russian expansion.
Understanding so shallow you need Low-angle X-ray Diffraction to quantify it
Ok, but like realistically what do you think the outcome in this war is? Do you think there is a realistic path forwards in which Ukraine beats Russia?
If your answer to that is yes, then I don’t know what to say to you. Ukraine is getting overrun by material and people from its much larger opponent. The only way to tip that balance is the rest of nato going hot(er) and joining the war and then we have ww3 - which I hardly need to point out the devastating consequences of for the whole world.
If your answer to that is no, then what does conscription of men and the continuation of the war achieve? Other than greater suffering, death and destruction. How can that be good? I don’t want Russia to win per-say, this is a brutal war between two reactionary powers. But I do wish for all the civilians in the affected area that the war stops, so their children will stop being killed in the collateral and they can stop sacrificing their sons and fathers to the meat grinder. It is clear that Ukraine isn’t winning so the path to peace is Russia wins.
Russia winning is the most good realistic outcome.
That's one take. Recently a bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, way of living and freedom. But draft dodging is fine from a pacifist point of view.
Better that than being lured into a war as the Russians do.
Edited to way of living to help the literally ones
bigger focus has been on how these men are avoiding their duties as citizens to protect their country, lives and freedom
How would they be protecting their lives by going into a war zone? And if their freedom was important they wouldn't be getting pressed into service; as for protecting their country, no one cared that they were shirking that responsibility when they allowed Azov militia members to kill ethnic Russians (who identified as Ukrainian until they were being ethnically cleansed) without defending that part of their country. Why weren't Ukrainians defending that part of the country?
If you're not ready to protect life and freedom by getting blown up within a week of arriving at the front in an unwinnable war you're a bad person.
