While I've certainly seen a lot of posts and cases about the other side of the coin. And not to dismiss this. I've seen plenty of stories and accounts of people who have lost family members to the cult of the "cheeto man" himself.
But my mom has gone complete bonkers since 2016 for an entirely different reason. Shes obsessed with hating Trump. From 2016-2021 it was like 99% of what she would talk about. Hell, its gotten a tiny bit better but its still like 50% on a good day of what she talks about at any given time still. During the Mueller era, she had CNN practically 24/7. So much so that one of the headlines literally burned into her TV. She would post and show anyone she talked to anti Trump memes, songs, etc. People started disconnecting from her and she just had this "Well I guess they dont like what I havr to say! They're Trumpers anyways." Pretty much lacking any self awareness into how unhinged the election made her and fully leaning into it.
This is a woman who went from not voting and not really caring for either side of the political aisle to running for and becoming a school board member. She was so insufferable in this position that she took a 4 year break because no one liked her, ran again, and resigned because no one on the board or at the school likes her.
Fortunately, I havent lived with her for the most part since COVID, aside from like 3 months when I was in between apartments due to a breakup at the time. But I do still love her and miss the old her from before Trump became president so I keep in semi touch with her.
But I had a conversation with her recently about this election that makes me question the sanity of most of these boomer libs. Despite knowing Im not voting for kamala or Trump, she keeps pushing me. Texting "your vote counts. Theres only 2 candidates" over and over. Even though I literally live halfway across the country from her in California. Shes running short of harassing me to vote for Kamala. And then out of the blue she calls me literally just to talk about this. Spews the same old zionist bullshit that "we should fund Israel, its just Bibi whos bad!" And that "Israel-Palestine is just ONE issue anyways". And so on the usual crap about J6 and shit.
I said something like "kamala and trump are both evil, Trump is just honest about it".
And she literally goes off "YOU THINK TRUMP IS HONEST! YOU MUST BE DRINKING THE KOOL AID SON! DONALD TRUMP IS ANYTHING BUT HONEST."
Basically calling me a Trumper for the mere suggestion of Trump being honest about something. Much less, honest about him being evil. Before hanging up and saying I have nothing better to do. Despite her bothering me about the subject, her calling me to argue, and her lack of being able to talk about much of anything else.
Does anyone else have any stories of crazy lib relatives post 2016? I feel like I cant be the only one.
nah that's your family dummy. you only get one.
And yet she continues with her Trump derangement syndrome, pushing away OP.
I've seen it firsthand with my own mother. And I've had to let her go, no matter what I say to get her right thinking again, because she won't listen. She is stuck in her hatred of Trump.
So no, no "dummy" here. Just someone who decided to move on and get on with their life.
I have trump supporters and evangelical christian converts in my family but I don't cut them out of my life completely. that's an over-reaction.
And at a certain point, when they become toxic, you have to cut them out. Or risk "drowning".
There are other people I can help and other people more open to the truth, in the Marx-Lenin sense, of the world around them.
And like I said earlier, you can be there for them when they are ready "to come back to their senses". But what you will not be able to do is to change them. They have to want that themselves.
Nah I have familu members who are fascists that won't openly admit it ("I'm just a liberal, trust me! Yeah I want to exterminate trans people and Muslims, but I'm just a liberal!")
I can't get them out of my life because at the moment, I have no choice because leaving would make me homeless.
Alienating yourself from those you wish to liberate because they aren't as revolutionary as you is soooo not how to get movement going
There has to be reasons for you doing so beyond her hating Trump too much. Like, damn, you both hate the guy although for different reasons. Abandoning family cause they aren't leftists is doing cultural revolution shit before a real revolution. You do you, but it seems very petty and weird to disown your own mother for the sole reason that she hates Trump too much.
GarbageShoot said it best earlier:
The keyword here is "obsession". OP's mom is literally spiraling. My mom was literally spiraling. Both of our moms were actually being abusive.
That is why I said to let go. When they become abusive, you have to leave them. Period. Sometimes, realizing you've been left alone because of an unhealthy obsession can snap a person back to reality. In my case, for my mom, me leaving helped her. To her, losing me was way worse than having some orange skinned imperialist buffoon in the white house.
I don't know if OP leaving their mom alone will have the same effect, but from what OP described in their opening statement, OP's mom became abusive towards her child with her derangement, her obsession. From that revelation, my comment was about leaving an abusive relationship. Nothing more.
I don't live with my parents so I only need to put up with them being annoying on my own terms, so if one were to go that way I'd probably be more concerned than anything. op doesn't live at home so it really just amounts to bullshit you need to deal with when visiting. I'm sorry but being annoying doesn't count as abuse. If as OP said she was decent and cool prior to Trump, there's probably more than just Trump going on here. I don't know you, your mom or your situation but as an adult with aging parents, I'd be spending more time with them and talking to them more and I'd probably talk to a doctor or something if it seems like a major behavioral shift. If my mom was mentally spiraling I'd do the decent thing and be there for her. If she's not in her 70s or older then she's gonna outlive Trump being a viable president anyway, it's either 4 years or he's done in November, the source of the obsession will go away.
I would have liked to discuss how Trump derangement syndrome has made old libs more or less as crazy as Maga people but it had to become the 'you should disown your family' post. You don't get to abandon people when they become annoying. OP doesn't live with his mom, OP can leave, there is no power dynamic in play that I've read that can constitute abuse in any way, being obsessive isn't a form of abuse. It's a sign THEY need help.
We are so not gonna have communism if this is how people react when their mothers decline mentally. How about you consider what's happening to them. If you don't have to live with your parents and can leave whenever you want to when interacting with them, it ain't abuse.
Not to dogpile, OP will have to decide for their self if that's the course they want to take or not, but I'm fully in the "disown your folks for your own well being" camp if necessary
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Death to America
Whatever mod deleted this is a coward. Nobody should stay with abusive/toxic people just cause they're "family". Abuse apologist.
Found families are real and valuable though
In my experience, you can ABSOLUTELY pick another. Blood means nothing but where you can trace yourself to. You owe them nothing if they're incapable of respect.