Perhaps one of the more surprising changes in the 6.12-rc4 development kernel was the removal of several entries from the kernel's MAINTAINERS file. The patch performing the removal was sent (by Greg Kroah-Hartman) only to the patches@lists.linux.dev mailing list; the change was included in a char-misc drivers pull request with no particular mention.

The explanation for the removal is simply ""various compliance requirements"". Given that the developers involved all appear to be of Russian origin, it is not too hard to imagine what sort of compliance is involved here. There has, however, been no public posting of the policy that required the removal of these entries.

An early comment likely pins down the prevailing institutional pressures leading to this decision

What's the deal with an international project adhering to what is obviously a decision of the US government?

Hint: The Linux Foundation (which notably employs Greg KH and Torvalds, and provides a lot of the legal and other infrastructure for this "international project") is based in the US, and therefore has to follow US laws.

This is pretty fucked up. Like, we might see the kernel forked in the coming months/years.

See also: Phoronix: Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted

  • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Agreed on not shaming forking, but creating a serious fork for anything substantial takes a fuckton of effort and many times you wind up with multiple mutually-incompatible source trees. In libre, community-run software, it's almost always advantageous to settle your differences and centralize efforts than to fork and split the efforts.

    Most forks die because its hard to get people to jump ship. Think about how much lemmitors cry about Lemmy, the devs, and lemmy.ml, yet they cannot muster the effort to keep kbin alive or get sublinks off the ground. OG Hexbear was eventually rebased back to upstream too.

    When forking, there are a few paths, all having some serious disadvantage:

    1. Soft fork and remain at the mercy of the decisions of the project you forked from unless your fork becomes the de facto default. This is usually only really beneficial if you want to rectify disagreements on a handful of small features. (e.g. Ungoogled-Chromium / Brave vs. Chromium, various Linux kernel forks)

    2. Hard fork and lose compatibility of upstream patches, making keeping feature parity difficult. This is only really beneficial if your fork gets a critical mass of users/devs and can outpace upstream at features users want. (e.g. Forgejo vs. Gitea, Lemmy vs. OG Hexbear)

    3. Rewrite from the ground up, building the same or a similar API but upon a better architecture. This is the most effort, but keeps compatibility with the ecosystem, and potentially has a massive payoff once fully implemented (e.g. like Tvix vs. Nix, OpenHarmony vs. Android)

    4. Write an alternative from scratch, focusing on implementing the most important features and not caring about feature parity. This is the best balance for small utils, but you lose the ability to be used as a drop-in replacement. (e.g. lsd / eza vs. GNU, ripgrep vs. grep)

    Getting a critical mass of devs onboard is key to success, but also difficult. Outside of some open core software making some shitty money-grabbing decision and sparking community outrage, that's not very probable.

    • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      IMO there are many alternative kernels than Linux. It's a good kernel, but it's also written in C, is monolithic to a fault, and has a lot of legacy debt.

      I don't think a new kernel will take over from tomorrow, but this will give projects like Redox a boost (hopefully) and slowly encourage enterprises to consider other systems for their software.

      Linux was already showing its age with the reluctance of the incumbent maintainers to support new technologies and ideas because it threatened their superiority complexes, and this is yet another sign that maybe reform isn't the solution.

      I feel like Linux may be going the way of UNIX. Not in some pessimistic "it's joever" way, but in the way that it eventually will be superseded by an improved project with better leadership, better technologies, and better principles.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 months ago

        I feel like Linux may be going the way of UNIX. Not in some pessimistic "it's joever" way, but in the way that it eventually will be superseded by an improved project with better leadership, better technologies, and better principles.

        I remember having this shower thought, "it's weird to imagine people still using Linux in 2050." Of the three main OS, Linux is the oldest one. Windows NT is slightly newer than Linux and macOS is only around 2 decades old. Even the various BSDs are slightly newer than Linux.