• Lord_ofThe_FLIES [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    The SPÖ is better locally than on the national scale, due mostly to Vienna's socialist tradition ( Red Vienna ), but they're still succdems yes

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They're Christian conservatives.

        Why they gained so many votes?
        Basically, nationally they now hold the same positions on migration and such as the FPÖ(extreme right-wing party), so a lot of people I assume voted for the ÖVP instead after the whole Ibiza affair and all.

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          so roughly half the fash just changed branding from fpo to ovp? that uh.. sucks.

          incoming ovp-fpo-grune alliance to fuck with the spo?

          im unfamiliar with viennas politics but thats what i would wager

          • CoralMarks [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            No, Vienna will stay red, IMO it is most likely they will seek a coalition with the Greens.

            Theoretically, the ÖVP/FPÖ/Green/Neos could have enough seats, but the Greens wouldn't ally with the FPÖ, that is not going to happen because they are too openly fash.

            Edit: Btw, they are currently in a coalition in Vienna already, that is SPÖ/Greens.

            • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              :soviet-hmm:

              if the greens are willing to ally with the conservative christian party, it doesnt sound unreasonable theyd tack seats on by pandering to the fash, but youd know better than me as to how viable that is for them politically.

              thanks for the info!

              • CoralMarks [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                That would be a complete PR disaster for them if they tried that, especially because there is no need for that.
                Ideologically they are a lot closer to the SPÖ anyways, they formed a coalition on a national level with the ÖVP only out of sheer pragmatism and lack of alternative partners.

                And just to add, there is still quite a difference in public perception when it comes to the ÖVP/FPÖ, because although they are on the same page on almost every issue the ÖVP is a lot better at disguising their intentions.