He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

kitty-birthday-sad

  • REgon [they/them]
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    24 days ago

    Elections don't matter, but who you vote for if you do does matter. It is an indicator of personal values.
    If you are aware a candidate is committing a genocide and you are still voting for them... Then that does very much matter.

      • REgon [they/them]
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        24 days ago

        downbear
        You don't have to explain to me that electorialism is a fuck. I know that. We all know that. Give your comrades the bare decency of assuming they understand basic concepts, even if you disagree with them.

        If you vote for Kamala while knowing she is committing a genocide, you are supporting someone committing a genocide. Electorialism is a fuck, but if you vote it is because you give it some value. If you vote for someone committing a genocide, you are supporting genocide. You are validating genocide. You are legitimising someone committing a genocide.

          • REgon [they/them]
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            23 days ago

            debate-me-debate-me

            Electorialism is a fuck, but if you vote it is because you give it some value.

            Literally the next sentence.
            Stop doing this debatebro bullshit.

            Edit: If you need more words to ignore then go and have your eyes glaze over @MaeBorowski@hexbear.nets comment