• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    22 days ago

    You seriously couldn't show this to normies because they wouldn't believe something like this could be real.

    That's something I'm struggling with. The true history of all this sounds so over the top cartoon villain writing you can't convince libs who don't know hwo the world works of it, nor can you possibly make it make sense to them because there's so much deep history.

    • peeonyou [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      This is why I struggled so hard to overcome the libbrained programming I was entrenched in. I couldn't fathom that the reality of the US and our history was so sinister.

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        22 days ago

        It was scary to admit it to myself. On the other hand, once the dam broke it was gone for good.

        • peeonyou [he/him]
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          22 days ago

          yep, just like when you realize Santa isn't real, you can't go back

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        22 days ago

        Libs exist on the idea that there is an order and absolute state to the world, that a conflict is a "both sides" situation in which absolute monsters cannot, or very rarely exist. The truth however is that a state that has been drenched and fermented within a popular culture of ethnic superiority that dehumanizes enemies of the state very readily become monsters when the call is made.

        Nazis deserved the pit and similarly so to do all who maintained the very fascist infrastructure of the IDF and it's continued genocide.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      22 days ago

      My initial response is disbelief because it's exactly the sort of shit the CIA makes up about third world countries. projection

    • MrPiss [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      For real, like how does someone talk about the Israelis protesting a few months ago for their soldiers to be allowed toremoved prisoners. There's no way to bring that up in a real world conversation and not sound like you're inventing a new form of blood libel against Israeli Jews.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      22 days ago

      I've defaulted to thinking of the most depraved shit ever. Usualy the truth isn't that far off, or even worse and the bar gets lower. Like Israel, the US, UK, and Saudis were behind the entire ISIS thing. Lined entire villages of men up and one by one sliced open their throat and kicked them into a mass grave pit as they bleed out gaging for air while their hands are zip tied.

      Ever wonder why ISIS never attacked Pissreal. And Iran fought vicoisly against ISIS, but Iran is the villian? Israel assassinates anyone who actually tried to make a peace deal.

      Then you find out 20, 50 years later - yeah we did that. Like backing the Nazis and Banderites in ukkkraine and when you tell people about it they reject it and call you a Putin puppet even when it's open for all to see on official sites..

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        21 days ago

        Oh... uhh... we did do ISIS. Not all of it, but a lot of western backed "Moderate Rebels" were ISIS factions.

        And, yeah, Israel gakked Arafat and Sharon to make sure any kind of peace was impossible.

        Sorry if you're saying you already knew that and i'm reading it wrong.

        One of the recent TrueAnons is all about that Nazi "victims of communism" memorial and about how Chrystia Freeland was actively one of the OUN-B goons, at a low level, sent back in to Ukraine during the last years of the cold war to start spreading UkroNazi propaganda.

        dubois-finger-guns : the deputy PM of Canada is a Nazi spy who uses Canada to advance the position of Ukronazis with the complete knowledge and complicity of NATO!

        what-the-hell