Why would i be happy that the USA and Russia are waging a proxy war just two countries away from me? This shit will likely go on for at least another decade if it unfolds like similar conflicts, it could destabilize an entire region next to my home country, it has massively decreased our standard of living due to inflation and there's already arms for Ukraine showing up in the hands of nazi terrorists and criminal organizations. I do not have the Amerikan luxury of viewing this war as a cost-effective way to kill eastern Europeans, my point is that "you guys are pro Trump and pro Putin" is an entirely nonsensical talking point because these people aren't allies and have never been.
You should be happy because if Ukraine did not fight back, if it did not receive western supplies, the war would be fought in your country, and in mine. And trust me, you do not want Russians in your country (but if you're just two countries away and older than 12, you know that already).
these people aren't allies and have never been.
Ah, yes, billionaire oligarhs are totally not allies. No, they each only have the best interests of their working people at heart. And these two specially, their chat without transistors was just about football, Trump getting billions in loans from Russian state banks in just good business, and that Manafort guy was just a coincidence.
if Ukraine did not fight back, if it did not receive western supplies, the war would be fought in your country, and in mine
How? The Russian sphere of influence has been shrinking for 30 years with next to no pushback until Crimea, they can barely occupy their direct neighbors, they took a decade to beat down the insurgency in fucking Chechnya and you're assuming they'd march on Berlin if we wouldn't gift cluster bombs to neonazis? Even during the Cold War, when the Red Army was at the peak of its power, such widespread invasion scenarios by default included strategic nuclear bombing of half of Western Europe. Are you in the "Putin is completely insane and wants to destroy the world" camp or how else do you explain your scenario?
BTW, i'm glad Soviet (not Russian) troops actually where in my country once, but that may be because i don't prefer the Nazis over the USSR.
Why would i be happy that the USA and Russia are waging a proxy war just two countries away from me? This shit will likely go on for at least another decade if it unfolds like similar conflicts, it could destabilize an entire region next to my home country, it has massively decreased our standard of living due to inflation and there's already arms for Ukraine showing up in the hands of nazi terrorists and criminal organizations. I do not have the Amerikan luxury of viewing this war as a cost-effective way to kill eastern Europeans, my point is that "you guys are pro Trump and pro Putin" is an entirely nonsensical talking point because these people aren't allies and have never been.
It's not a proxy war for Russia, lol.
You should be happy because if Ukraine did not fight back, if it did not receive western supplies, the war would be fought in your country, and in mine. And trust me, you do not want Russians in your country (but if you're just two countries away and older than 12, you know that already).
Ah, yes, billionaire oligarhs are totally not allies. No, they each only have the best interests of their working people at heart. And these two specially, their chat without transistors was just about football, Trump getting billions in loans from Russian state banks in just good business, and that Manafort guy was just a coincidence.
How? The Russian sphere of influence has been shrinking for 30 years with next to no pushback until Crimea, they can barely occupy their direct neighbors, they took a decade to beat down the insurgency in fucking Chechnya and you're assuming they'd march on Berlin if we wouldn't gift cluster bombs to neonazis? Even during the Cold War, when the Red Army was at the peak of its power, such widespread invasion scenarios by default included strategic nuclear bombing of half of Western Europe. Are you in the "Putin is completely insane and wants to destroy the world" camp or how else do you explain your scenario?
BTW, i'm glad Soviet (not Russian) troops actually where in my country once, but that may be because i don't prefer the Nazis over the USSR.