Inspired by some of the discussion in this thread. I don't think it's appropriate place for that discussion there, but hey why not have a separate thread for it

If I think religion is not good in general, am I Reddit and cringe and basically Richard Dawkins?

  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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    6 days ago

    You posted your disengagment (which I respected by the way) while I was editing my comment.

    I also don't know why you would think I'm attempting to troll you, when everything I've said has been perfectly civil, if not in agreement with you.

    You asked if I consider myself better than the masses because they have incorrect views. And the answer is no because I am part of the masses. How can I be above the masses while being a part of them?

    But neither does being part of the masses excuse incorrect views. It is demonstrably worse to be a reactionary than not. It is in fact better to be a Marxist and a communist. Seeking to justify yourself by reference to the incorrect views of the masses, as if backwards views are not something to be combatted, which itself requires a value judgment, is tailism.

    • FunkYankkkees [they/them, pup/pup's]
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      6 days ago

      But neither does being part of the masses excuse incorrect views. It is demonstrably worse to be a reactionary than not. It is in fact better to be a Marxist and a communist. Seeking to justify yourself by reference to the incorrect views of the masses, as if backwards views are not something to be combatted, which itself requires a value judgment, is tailism.

      This is why I think you are trolling me
      Show me where i "justified myself by reference to the incorrect views of the masses"
      Or does "think yourself better than someone else" mean something different to you?

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        6 days ago

        That isn't what you said, you asked if others think themselves better than people who are wrong

        Do you consider yourself better than the masses? Most of them are not marxists, so are wrong about a lot of things

        Right here

        What is your point if not to say that no value judgment ("better than") can be made against those sections of the masses with backwards views ("Most of them are not marxists, so are wrong about a lot of things")? You're not better than a fascist, simply because the masses include fascists? That's tailism my friend

        • FunkYankkkees [they/them, pup/pup's]
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          6 days ago

          Ok, I see the issue, I think we see the words "consider yourself better than" differently
          To me thinking yourself better than someone is less about ideology and views and more something inherent, as in "This person is lesser because they believe in the wrong god, or worship the same god wrong"
          I apologize for my tone earlier