It's just incredible how consistent views are under the western propaganda umbrella. Yeah, we're pretty consistent too, but it's weird seeing it from the outside. There's no critique, there's no self-reflection, there's often no logic or perspective of any kind. They keep yelling "sovereignty" like it's a magic word and they think it means something.
Unfortunately it's also really boring. The same people with the same childish understanding and incurious diet of media saying the same things over and over and over and over. I wish more of our team would disengage. I'm certainly not getting any wiser going through these conversations on repeat and I don't think anyone else is, either.
If it sucks for you, don't do it, or take a break. But the first step in getting anything done is getting people on our side, and that takes effort and attention.
Plenty of minds have changed based on what they read online the last several years. Those "I'm a leftist, but" people who are frustratingly close are exactly who we want to be talking to, because even if they don't appear as such, they're really just one or two realizations away, and they're the most likely to consider what we have to say.
Also, in a lot of cases, the people you're educating aren't the people you're arguing with, they're the people watching the conversation unfold. I've personally learned an incredible amount just from lurking and seeing leftists pushing back on lib takes.
It's exhausting, to peel back the layers of a lifetime of propaganda. We shouldn't all feel obligated to do it. But, for better or for worse, online shitposting does kind of reach some people... eventually.