With any hope it will lead to the end of the United States, even if by a single day if possible
The democrats are the sole reason that Trump won. Harris had such a massive advantage over trump and then just assumed everyone would vote for her because she deserves it for existing just like Hilliary and spent the last few months running as a blue republican to the point of bragging about how she would put one in her cabinet. She was even competing with Trump on who could have the most racist immigration policy. It clear to me at least, that a democratic party that actually cared about beating Trump is the same one that would've stopped the genocide in Palestine... One that doesn't exist.
Edit: I forgot that she even got endorsed by Dick Cheney what a disgrace. Why did she even bother running aganist Trump? Clearly she would be happier as his vice president.
You know how the US government will get rid of progressive movements by absorbing them? ( I don't know what that's called). They pay lip service to BLM as an example, until it's diffused. It seems like the Republicans have successfully done that to the Democrats, by being endorsed by the Democrats and all the other things you have said here.
So they got out maneuvered by a group of people they convinced themselves were idiots. Typical.
They called republicans fascists and then sat down at the table with them. Unsurprisingly, more fascists stood up then had orginally sat down.
See this is what we need, an unwavering commitment to grow the movement
man I’ve been trying to fight for you guys for 15 years from Canada. I’m so sorry.
You are a real hero. We are proud of you, comrade. Keep fighting. We need everyone like you ✌️🇵🇸
Yes, I agree with you. He is a crazy man and does not have any kind of wisdom. I did not expect him to win.
Me neither. I was convinced this mad times are finally over with harris and that we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.
Now we have this fucking dictator loving orange clown, again. FFS how can people vote for this motherfucker after those 4(or even 8) years of nightmares (Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done)
Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done
He expanded upon them
Biden literally expanded the border control/immigration policies that Trump set. Factually and literally, he did expand on them.
Liberals need to fuck off with the "well, actually no in my opinion" when it comes to debating literal facts. This is facts. Biden expanded multiple things created under Trump and even gave himself unlimited power knowing that Trump was likely running against Kamala.
Can you actually put up a debate or reasoning behind your thoughts? Or do you usually just go "NUH UH!"
Biden is not harris and I think biden did some wrong as well, but what are you gonna do with a republican lead senate…
Democrats can not do so much wrong do be on pair with trump
You stop engaging in electoralism, start organizing and arming yourself. That's what you do.
we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.
That was never going to happen, she was adamant about her support for Israel even when it was obviously detrimental to her.
Well, she is not the only person to decide, and there are more democrats in favour to stopping the genocide than there are republicans with own opinions.
What are your sources about that? And I was not talking about majority vs minority, but count of not-zionist-democrats vs count not-zionist-republicans
So in other words, I bet, the brave people that demonstrated for 🇵🇸 in America are more likely vote democratic than republican
And, of course, a dual-poly government (like only two strong parties) is nearly as bad as only one party government, so it is reasonable that US people always have to decide between bad or worse.
Yes but the base has no actual power within the party and the leadership is as zionist as the republicans
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Also see: AIPAC
I don't have a source for how many Democrats are Zionist vs. how many Republicans. It doesn't really matter, because as long as the majority of a party supports Zionism, who cares if technically the other party supports it more?
Democrats have been in power since the current genocide began
Well, democrats hate a demented president and I believe the power in the senate (where decisions about policies are made) were republican. Additionally, only because the democrats do a bad job, it doesn’t mean that republicans can’t do it even worse.
Trump has stated that he thinks genocide-Bibi is doing “a good job”. I hope that says it all, isn’t it?
Obama had a democratic supermajority during his presidency and refused to enact/codify roe v wade and multiple other major decisions for working class citizen...like accepting a shitty republican healthcare program he didn't have to. The excuse of "republicans are stopping us!" is complete horseshit.
Democrats aren't hindered by republicans. Senate always has trouble agreeing on things unless it's military aid for bombing brown people or cutting funding to programs.
Yes, I agree with you, my friend. Also, Hartz is not ideal. But we were hoping that there would be American pressure on it to stop the genocide, unlike Trump, he doesn’t care about anyone, he’s crazy
Yea, but we would had have a chance talking reasonable with her, since she is thinking more or less rational unlike some other orange idiot.
Her "I'm speaking!!" to Palestinian protestors is proof of that alone. Her constant support and funding from AIPAC is another as well.
What fantasy world do you think genocide Kamala would stop supporting Israel or start supporting Gaza?
Well that was not what I wanted to say. Voting not for trump is not the same as voting for harris
Not voting for harris is voting for trump.
At least in my eyes
So you just completely ignored what everyone has been saying, huh? You realize when you do that people, rightfully, make fun of you?
Also, how about organizing instead of voting.
We can't depend on Democrats to stop Trump, this is now incredibly well proven. We have 4 years to figure out something else.
That's fine, but it doesn't change anything. It's time to get offline and start fighting even if everyone is gonna die. Let me know if you don't know where to start.
I was also wondering how these people agreed to him in the elections. This world has become full of lunatics. Even Haaretz and Trump are two sides of the same coin. He will say continue the war and Haaretz will say stop the war while continuing the genocide.
There is never the choice between good and bad, but Harris had more good than trump, which in my opinion has none good other than chaos which may lead collapse to new societies which may or may not be better..
What exactly? Trump said mean things? What about Kamala is good/better?
Both wanted fracking/oil drilling Both didn't care about trans people (Kamala: we have to follow the law) Kamala actively put marginalized people from her community into jail on marijuana charges while Trump bankrupted a few casinos. Both want hostile relations with China.
If anything, Kamala/Joe ramped up two wars. Trump actually wants to end Ukraine. (we'll see)
So how exactly is either one worse? Orange man say bad thing?
Edit: You know what, I could give you "character". Sure. Creepy orange guy. Then again, the democrats ran Biden...so.
The difference for me is that Harris isn’t notoriously lying all the time (I mean completely senseless lies, often contradicting himself, like way out of logic)
But if you see no difference 🤷🏻 I don’t know..
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/31/kamala-harris-flip-flop-on-fracking-frames-fight-f/
https://nypost.com/2024/09/27/opinion/kamala-harris-intentional-lack-of-clarity-on-israel-raises-red-flags/
She did that too. 🤷🏻 I don’t know…
But I guess you're right. At the end of the day, the only real difference is that ones a angry mean cheeto and the other one really tells you the things you want to hear!
I've completely whooped your fucking ass on every defending point you have for her yet you choose to plug your ears and worship the democratic party..
He is a piece of shit but at least he is incompetent and surrounds himself with incompetent people.
I pray that the Zionists somehow manage to piss him off in a way that gives the people of Gaza some relief.
أنت صحيح يا عزيزي .
مو بس لفلسطين و الشام ، بس للعالم كله .
أمريكا هي الشيطان الأكبر ، و لازم تنهدم بالكامل .
Most of the Democrats are pro Zionism.
