They were running against a batshit insane senile cheeto and couldn't win the election anyway. They refused to go left, they collaborate with devils like the cheneys and when we pointed out the writing on the wall, we were met with "russian disinformation farms" and "tankies" for having a fucking brain and seeing that moving right will not make racist sexist republicans vote for a black woman. And lo and behold, 94% of republicans voted for trump, FUCKING OBVIOUSLY. The only fucking reason Kamala didn't run on being progressive was because at the end of the day, there's no "lesser evil," and we've all been saying this for fucking ever, the democrats are genocidal capitalist ghouls, and they will support america's interests no matter how much blood is spilled and no matter how many people get stomped on by bigots controlling the white house, the senate, the supreme court (which the democrats just let get stocked with republicans) and probably the house too. And they don't care. "Just give us money and make sure to vote blue next election" before they slink off into the darkness and begin their political pickpocketing two years from now. FUCK, now queer and genderqueer and bipoc people in america have to live with the republicans doing whatever they want for the next four years because GOD FORBID THE DEMOCRATS LISTEN TO A SINGLE FUCKING HING THEIR CONSTITUENTS SAY INSTEAD OF PLUGGING THEIR EARS AND SCREAMING "VOTE!"
i hate it here. every one of you redditors that posted shit like "i'm on the right side of history" while you refuse to leverage your one single fucking scrap of political power in this shitty dictatorship. fuck lemmy.world, fuck reddit, fuck libs for soypogging for kamala's campaign and not using their eyes to see that there's no difference in the end, the ghouls are ghouls.
if you're white it doesn't matter, sure. but racism is still a real thing, and rhetoric makes its way to material conditions.
Not challenging you; actually curious to know: was violence against vulnerable folks measurably higher under trump than during bidens term? I'll look after i hit send, dunno what terms will find me that info tho
Look up hate crime stats. There are plenty of articles about hate crimes increasing after Trump's first win. I'll never understand why leftists downplay Trump and his impact.
I just got back from searching DOJ and FBI statistics pages over Trump's and bidens terms and see a steady year-over-year increase of hair crime statistics. According to that data there was no real difference in the increase each year, looking at trumps 4 and the 4 following years.
From a trans violence specific page i saw a "record" number of trans deaths, (37) in 2020. 2023 statistics? 37 more trans deaths
Yeah but did you accout for all the peaceful protests against genocide being counted as antisemitic hate crimes?
oh ffs
Lololol but of course
.... My data is from before Oct 7 as 2024 isn't finished and those statistics aren't available (that i can easily find)
Yes, it's almost like trump winning the first time around made things worse and then those people who became more radicalized didn't just vanish when trump lost round 2
Look friend we're just talking here right? This aint .world. I'm saying regular shit we all accept right?
Biden and the Dems only pretend to help the disadvantaged but in effect do less than nothing to protect them, preferring to cozy up to money in every case and sense.
If Trump's presidency had an effect it would be in the data, but my (quick) analysis is that it does not, rather showing simply the deteriorating material conditions of the timeframe. I am more than ready to be presented with facts to the contrary, we aren't arguing, at all
From 2008/2009 until 2015/2016, hate crimes in the US were trending down. From 2016 until today, they have trended up. To me, the best explanation for this is the rightwing radicalization (and empowerment of the already radicalized) of many by the first trump campaign and subsequent presidency.
Outside of hate crimes, we can also see general increases in rightwing violence during this same period (at least according to the feds, not sure that we should even trust any of this data). I'm not saying electing a Dem fixes anything, I'm saying Trump being elected makes it worse because the people doing the hate crimes feel empowered.
Obama being elected also made it worse, but because the racists felt attacked by the very idea of a black person being prez and were reacting to that, which is why it slowly died down over time. Trump is still here and still actively engaging his base, he never stopped so the radicalization didn't stop either.
Yes, ok I see your point. I agree with you.
It's just talk to you but it's a more delicate subject to others.
Your quick analysis literally shows an increase in hate crime stats starting from 2016. Right wing radicalization incited by Trump's rhetoric didn't go anywhere just because Democrats won something.
Hee heee! Now i gotta leave it
"proud boys" and "patriot front" regularly drove into [my city] to pick fights with anyone they thought looked weak and lefty, especially trans folk. they did "trump cruise" truck parades and shot paintballs from their windows at passers by. the fash get extremely emboldened when their guy is in office. he is a danger and his status as president gives these groups the "permission" they need to continue their violence. it is real.
I'm sorry, yeah I've been quite privileged never having been exposed to that shit, saltine shaped and large citied, that i am. I defer to your experience and wish a merry 'die' in their direction.
Oh, I forgot about those. Those were annoying