Everyone just seems to be talking about how he had freaky sex orgies. Which I find weird. I haven't looked into it but I assume there was like... actual sex crimes going on at these parties. But people just joke about the baby oil shit.

Thing is I wouldn't really give a fuck if he was have orgies with heavy baby oil usage if everyone involved was a consenting adult. Fuck, if that was the case I'd probably be COMMENDING Diddy.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 days ago

    [CW: SA]

    Hey remember when Bill Clinton used his position of power to coerce a woman into giving him a bj and everyone joked about it and also slut shamed her?

    Sexism is a hell of a drug.

    • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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      4 days ago

      Remember how his wife also slut shamed said woman, and people call her a Feminist Icon today? agony-deep planet-hillary

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        4 days ago

        There's a rumor that she didn't talk to him for months after she learned of his behavior. And she she finally did call him it was to tell him to bomb Yugoslavia.

        • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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          4 days ago

          No need for rumor; Hillary confirmed it back in 1999.

          Bombing Serbia was a family affair in the Clinton White House. Hillary Clinton revealed to an interviewer in the summer of 1999, “I urged him to bomb. You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” A biography of Hillary Clinton, written by Gail Sheehy and published in late 1999, stated that Mrs. Clinton had refused to talk to the president for eight months after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. She resumed talking to her husband only when she phoned him and urged him in the strongest terms to begin bombing Serbia; the president began bombing within 24 hours.

          • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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            4 days ago

            Wasn't Serbia doing bad things, though? I'm not super educated on this part of history.

            • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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              4 days ago

              It was a shitshow after the fall of Communism generally and the breakup of Yugoslavia specifically, but getting NATO involved was itself controversial.

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              4 days ago

              It was, Serbia was committing war crimes. You can probably guess how much NATO cared about the war crimes, and how much NATO was simply trying to position itself to expand its hegemony and use the issue as a wedge in the Balkans that would reinforce the smaller countries' need for itself.

        • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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          4 days ago

          Real "My dad works at Nintendo" energy, but I know some people that were in Washington at the time who said Hillary was throwing shit at Bill and the secret service had to intervene before he lost an eye or something.

          Then there's the rumors she got absolutely piss drunk in 2016 after she lost and that's why she didn't make an appearance at her campaign HQ.

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        4 days ago

        Remember how she also helped hush up other women Bill was sexually inappropriate with?

        But yeah no liberal icon, her and Bill both

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 days ago

      I remember that from when I was a kid. At the time i absorbed the brutal and sexist treatment of Ms. Lewinsky and didn't have enough context or maturity to understand what was happening. All I knew was all the adults were joking about her, talking about blowjobs, and that the president was on trial for a long time.

      Much later I encountered some of Ms Lewinski's work and re-visited the events and realized how disgusting it all was. A young woman taken advantage of by her boss then exposed and shamed in front of the entire world as part of a callous political play by some of the most loathsome people on the planet. And it was largely treated as good fun and a problem for the president with little interest expressed in the treatment of the young Ms. Lewinsky.